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    Default trump says it is unconstitutional, unless he as the Fuhrer does it

    trump has refused to negotiate in good faith on the aid package, or push Republicans to negotiate in good faith. he has been spending years saying the Congressionally passed mandate that health insurers cover preexisting conditions are unconstitutional. So on Friday he announced he would extend the aid package by "executive order", and would mandate coverage of preexisting conditions by "executive order".

    If passing a law to mandate coverage of preexisting conditions is unconstitutional, then making an executive order is ever more unconstitutional. trump cannot make laws (especially laws he claims are unconstitutional) by executive order. he can only alter government regulations by executive order, not create laws.

    While I support extending the Covid-19 aid package, we have to do it the constitutional way. trump cannot just spend money by executive order, especially not that much money. Maybe he can move around the budget a little, but creating trillions in new spending with Congress.

    Why doesn't trump put his effort into accomplishing something? he could pressure Republicans into moving forward on the aid package, and on extending Obamacare so that more people are covered.

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    Hello Walt,

    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    trump has refused to negotiate in good faith on the aid package, or push Republicans to negotiate in good faith. he has been spending years saying the Congressionally passed mandate that health insurers cover preexisting conditions are unconstitutional. So on Friday he announced he would extend the aid package by "executive order", and would mandate coverage of preexisting conditions by "executive order".

    If passing a law to mandate coverage of preexisting conditions is unconstitutional, then making an executive order is ever more unconstitutional. trump cannot make laws (especially laws he claims are unconstitutional) by executive order. he can only alter government regulations by executive order, not create laws.

    While I support extending the Covid-19 aid package, we have to do it the constitutional way. trump cannot just spend money by executive order, especially not that much money. Maybe he can move around the budget a little, but creating trillions in new spending with Congress.

    Why doesn't trump put his effort into accomplishing something? he could pressure Republicans into moving forward on the aid package, and on extending Obamacare so that more people are covered.
    Wouldn't it be easier if he just ordered the pandemic to go away?

    Then, why not order the economy to skyrocket.

    And, while he's at it, order that he is president for life,

    Why not?

    Who's gonna stop him?

    He really believes that it doesn't matter what experts say, if he can envision it, he can make it come 'true' by lying about it.
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    Hello Walt,

    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    trump has refused to negotiate in good faith on the aid package, or push Republicans to negotiate in good faith. he has been spending years saying the Congressionally passed mandate that health insurers cover preexisting conditions are unconstitutional. So on Friday he announced he would extend the aid package by "executive order", and would mandate coverage of preexisting conditions by "executive order".

    If passing a law to mandate coverage of preexisting conditions is unconstitutional, then making an executive order is ever more unconstitutional. trump cannot make laws (especially laws he claims are unconstitutional) by executive order. he can only alter government regulations by executive order, not create laws.

    While I support extending the Covid-19 aid package, we have to do it the constitutional way. trump cannot just spend money by executive order, especially not that much money. Maybe he can move around the budget a little, but creating trillions in new spending with Congress.

    Why doesn't trump put his effort into accomplishing something? he could pressure Republicans into moving forward on the aid package, and on extending Obamacare so that more people are covered.
    Yeah, the great 'deal maker...'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    trump has refused to negotiate in good faith on the aid package, or push Republicans to negotiate in good faith.
    pelosi hasn't made 1 counter offer yet Republicans aren't negotiating in good faith?? ROFL
    he has been spending years saying the Congressionally passed mandate that health insurers cover preexisting conditions are unconstitutional. So on Friday he announced he would extend the aid package by "executive order", and would mandate coverage of preexisting conditions by "executive order".
    where did he say mandating precondition coverage was unconst.?
    If passing a law to mandate coverage of preexisting conditions is unconstitutional, then making an executive order is ever more unconstitutional.
    there is no such thing as "more unConstitutional" it either is or is not

    trump cannot make laws (especially laws he claims are unconstitutional) by executive order. he can only alter government regulations by executive order, not create laws.
    Obama "unConstitional"XO's
    https://www.cato.org/publications/co...ing-presidency

    While I support extending the Covid-19 aid package, we have to do it the constitutional way. trump cannot just spend money by executive order, especially not that much money. Maybe he can move around the budget a little, but creating trillions in new spending with Congress.
    When Congress abdicate its's purview -the Executive gloms them up.. Not saying it right or Constitutional -but it is what it is

    Why doesn't trump put his effort into accomplishing something? he could pressure Republicans into moving forward on the aid package, and on extending Obamacare so that more people are covered.
    Why wont Dems offer a counteroffer?

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    Cant wait to see the lefties faces in Cali when Vice underboss Putin takes over L.A!

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    pelosi hasn't made 1 counter offer yet Republicans aren't negotiating in good faith?? ROFL where did he say mandating precondition coverage was unconst.?
    there is no such thing as "more unConstitutional" it either is or is not

    Obama "unConstitional"XO's
    https://www.cato.org/publications/co...ing-presidency

    When Congress abdicate its's purview -the Executive gloms them up.. Not saying it right or Constitutional -but it is what it is

    Why wont Dems offer a counteroffer?
    Nancy isn't going to let the Republicans low ball working American citizens
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    pelosi hasn't made 1 counter offer yet Republicans aren't negotiating in good faith??
    There have been many offers made by Pelosi. Yesterday Pelosi offered to reduce the bill by a trillion dollars, if we could just get something... ANYTHING!!! Republicans responded that they could not even accept everything they wanted until they get trump on board.

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    ROFL where did he say mandating precondition coverage was unconst.?
    In the Supreme Court case.

    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Why wont Dems offer a counteroffer?
    There has been nothing but counteroffers. Republicans are not in a place where they can even accept a deal. They are too internally divided.

    And that is where trump could have been useful. trump could arm twist Republicans into making a deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    Cant wait to see the lefties faces in Cali when Vice underboss Putin takes over L.A!
    You are not even trying to hide your treason anymore, but you do have the order wrong. Putin is not trump's "vice underboss". Putin does not take orders from trump. trump is very much under Putin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    Cant wait to see the lefties faces in Cali when Vice underboss Putin takes over L.A!
    You must be stoned on something; you keep posting weird irrational tripe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    You must be stoned on something; you keep posting weird irrational tripe.
    It would be called humor. Having fun at you nutcases expense who are still crazy enuff to try and push the whole DEBUNKED Trump/Russia sillyness. Give it up and give it a break,...you guys gave it a shot, milked it out for as long as you could,.... but in the end you lose. Gonna lose even more when the Durham findings come out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    It would be called humor. Having fun at you nutcases expense who are still crazy enuff to try and push the whole DEBUNKED Trump/Russia sillyness. Give it up and give it a break,...you guys gave it a shot, milked it out for as long as you could,.... but in the end you lose. Gonna lose even more when the Durham findings come out.
    If you truly believe this, then you are complete clown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    If you truly believe this, then you are complete clown.


    Mueller said there was no collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign. That is what your own hand picked man said. Game... set....match. OVER!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    Mueller said there was no collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign. That is what your own hand picked man said. Game... set....match. OVER!
    Mueller did not say that, he said that there is insufficient evidence, meaning that there is some evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    Mueller did not say that, he said that there is insufficient evidence, meaning that there is some evidence.
    No collusion. You lose. But PLEASE DO continue talking about it,...nobody cares...LOL

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