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    The most novel thing in A Memoir of Communism is its study of the moment in which socialists absolved the revolutionary Communists. December 1917 was the moment when “perhaps the most important debate on the left in its entire history” took place, he writes. Two months after Lenin seized power by force from the socialist Kerensky, a group of Russian socialists published, in the French newspaper L’Humanité, an appeal against the Bolshevik regime; they described Bolshevism as violent, terrifying, and “capable of making the very name of socialism hated.” Their appeal was not successful. “There is also no way to ignore Kerensky’s terrible negligence in not condemning to the press Germany’s financing of Lenin after the failed coup in July (a dress rehearsal for what would happen in October).”

    Shortly afterwards, in 1918, when Kerensky reappeared in London and Paris, “his criticism of the Leninist coup and the terror unleashed against the opposition produced a phenomenon that would last until our times,” namely “the socialists’ and bourgeois Left’s insistence on denying the evidence of the Communist regime’s illegality and brutality.” Corollary: If you want to ruin the last hope, put it in the hands of a French socialist.

    The key to this historical trap is provided in a speech by Kerensky himself: “This regime, which calls itself socialist while following the worst methods of czarism, is the worst enemy of socialism, because the bourgeoisie exploits the example it gives and uses it to discredit our ideal.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    You right wingers talk about it. Liberals don't really care. Ask yourself the question.
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    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    The most novel thing in A Memoir of Communism is its study of the moment in which socialists absolved the revolutionary Communists. December 1917 was the moment when “perhaps the most important debate on the left in its entire history” took place, he writes. Two months after Lenin seized power by force from the socialist Kerensky, a group of Russian socialists published, in the French newspaper L’Humanité, an appeal against the Bolshevik regime; they described Bolshevism as violent, terrifying, and “capable of making the very name of socialism hated.” Their appeal was not successful. “There is also no way to ignore Kerensky’s terrible negligence in not condemning to the press Germany’s financing of Lenin after the failed coup in July (a dress rehearsal for what would happen in October).”

    Shortly afterwards, in 1918, when Kerensky reappeared in London and Paris, “his criticism of the Leninist coup and the terror unleashed against the opposition produced a phenomenon that would last until our times,” namely “the socialists’ and bourgeois Left’s insistence on denying the evidence of the Communist regime’s illegality and brutality.” Corollary: If you want to ruin the last hope, put it in the hands of a French socialist.

    The key to this historical trap is provided in a speech by Kerensky himself: “This regime, which calls itself socialist while following the worst methods of czarism, is the worst enemy of socialism, because the bourgeoisie exploits the example it gives and uses it to discredit our ideal.”

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    It's not a respected ideology in the free and civilized nations of the world. Your simple minds just blanket label things and create it being a respected ideology out of droned out ignorance.

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    The contemporary Left often puts forth a surprising defense when faced with the string of Communism’s failures throughout history: that no one has been able to get it right. It’s about as reasonable as claiming that serial killers shoot their victims because no one has taught them to hunt ducks. It reminds me of those weekend do-it-yourself experts who, when they see you bend a nail for the tenth time while trying to hammer it into a plank, snatch the hammer from you, screaming, “Give it to me, you useless idiot!” And naturally they miss the nail and smash their finger. Speaking of “the alleged Stalinist deviation from authentic Marxism-Leninism,” Jiménez Losantos writes:

    In every country where Communism has been applied, the result has been, and still is, crime and misery, but . . . because Communism has not been applied. The key is the but, which avoids condemnation. No one can tell us why we should keep insisting on an ever-failing recipe, and that’s because the reason is unutterable: Life is just peachy on the side of Good!


    In other words, do you know of any Communist leader who has not notably improved his own financial standing thanks to his Communist status? I don’t.

    It is not easy to understand Communism without taking a closer look at the personality of its leaders. Lenin’s driving force was hatred. Jiménez Losantos refers to what the founder of socialist realism, Russian writer Maxim Gorky, said regarding this: “I know of no one who felt with the depth and strength of Lenin the hatred, disgust, and contempt for human misery, pain, and suffering.” Jiménez Losantos adds that Lenin “was indifferent to whether others lived or died, except in relation to The Cause, namely, himself.” And then there is the matter of his bad character. “Another of the things Lenin shared with Marx was “the somatization of his failures,” Jiménez Losantos writes. “Both of them had outbursts of anger when someone disagreed with them or things didn’t go the way they wanted.” Sort of like Nancy Pelosi’s tearing up Trump’s State of the Union speech on live TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    It's not a respected ideology in the free and civilized nations of the world. Your simple minds just blanket label things and create it being a respected ideology out of droned out ignorance.
    Trump is Archie Bunker. They think it's the Cold War.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
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    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


    A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    It's not a respected ideology in the free and civilized nations of the world. Your simple minds just blanket label things and create it being a respected ideology out of droned out ignorance.
    Another pile of unintelligent word salad by the forums most infamous dumbass.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    It's not a respected ideology in the free and civilized nations of the world. Your simple minds just blanket label things and create it being a respected ideology out of droned out ignorance.
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    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    The terrible figures of Communist humanicide can only be discovered in the mathematical coldness of statistics: In 1924 there should be 17 million more in Russia but, after Lenin’s stint, they are not there. In addition to the deceased that Communism kills off, there are also those that Communism does not allow to live, to be born, to grow old, or to become ill without dying.

    As for the murderous record of Chinese Communism, he reasons: “The only difference between Mao and Lenin and Stalin is that the Chinese were more numerous than the Russians, and by doing the same as them, Mao was able to kill a great many more.”

    Among the Communist massacres, the particular violence against Christians stands out. The antagonism between Communism and Christianity is unconditional, despite the absurd attempts at reconciliation by the left-wing advocates of “liberation theology.” In Christianity, each life is unique and invested with a special dignity; each person is a child of God, created to be free. In Communism, the individual has no value and freedom is forbidden. “For Lenin and his infinite children, property and freedom are one and the same thing,” says Jiménez Losantos. “You cannot take away someone’s property without morally taking away his freedom and physically taking his life. That’s why Communism is the most atrocious form of modern slavery.”
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Why don't you Trump supporters just admit you have nothing?

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    Communists have killed WAY more people than fascists. They've put more people in totalitarian slavery and poverty than any other form of government. They've made economic shambles out of nation after nation where they've gotten power. What's not to like about that-- If you're a masochist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So the Democratic Party of the Jackass is not FOR massive Socialism? Your post provides no evidence for this claim.
    My post #5 asked you to justify your claim that "socialists have taken it upon themselves to excuse Communism’s crimes". It said nothing about the Democratic Party.
    If you want to change the subject, feel free, but do try to be more subtle about it.

    Staying for the moment with the original subject, one of the great critics of totalitarianism was George Orwell, who called himslf a democratic socialist. He never tried to excuse Communism's crimes. I don't know what he thought of the Democratic Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    My post #5 asked you to justify your claim that "socialists have taken it upon themselves to excuse Communism’s crimes". It said nothing about the Democratic Party.
    If you want to change the subject, feel free, but do try to be more subtle about it.

    Staying for the moment with the original subject, one of the great critics of totalitarianism was George Orwell who called himslf a democratic socialist. He never tried to excuse Communism's crimes. I don't know what he thought of the Democratic Party.

    Trump supporters are Archie Bunker. Dumb and clueless.

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