Beirut Explosion

[Hawkeye10]

Probably kept there by Hezbollah for the next war!

I did see a report that Hezbollah effectively controls the port....or former port....the place is obliterated now.

[Matt Dillon]

Who's directly responsible for it, either intentionally or just negligent? You decide.

"Investigators probing the devastating blast in Beirut that killed at least 135 people and injured 5,000 more are pointing to a Russian ship docked in the city's port for nearly seven years without appropriate security precautions that officials warned was “a floating bomb.”"

https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia...ecautions-repo

They let the stuff sit for 6 years without taking it out and and removing the wet hot spots.
It's negligence.

[Hawkeye10]

They let the stuff sit for 6 years without taking it out and and removing the wet hot spots.
It's negligence.

Even when stored right I dont know that this stuff has a seven year shelf life....this was extreme negligence...the complete failure of government to perform.

[T. A. Gardner]

The Lebanese government should have just distributed the ammonium nitrate to farms and spread it on the ground as fertilizer. Problem solved and the crops do better.

[Hawkeye10]

The Lebanese government should have just distributed the ammonium nitrate to farms and spread it on the ground as fertilizer. Problem solved and the crops do better.

Obviously....but they never did...this place is too broken.

[ExpressLane]

I did see a report that Hezbollah effectively controls the port....or former port....the place is obliterated now.

Well they just bombed themselves.

[anatta]

I it refuses to roll over for the neoZionist aggressors. Same as in Iran. Same as in Syria. Same as in Iraq.
Same as in Libya. Same as in Yemen.

Libya?? ROFL.
you mean TURKISH aggressors

[anatta]

It's actually a very sophisticated and balanced government. Its power-sharing system is quite remarkable.

I thnk it's more the people then the government -but true the power sharing agreement has served Lebanon well

Lebanon: Saved then Ruined by Sectarian Power-Sharing (February)
https://kenan.ethics.duke.edu/lebano...ring-february/

[Truth Detector]

The speculations before the facts on this thread were pure comedy. But in the end, it was pure Government incompetence. Yet the loony lefties here demand we all have more of it.

[Nordberg]

The port authority asked the government to remove the explosives many times. It was in writing too. They even said an accident would obliterate the area. Once it blew, they blamed the port authority.

[Doc Dutch]

"The Russian vessel, named MV Rhosus, carrying agricultural fertilizer with 2,750 metric tons of ammonium nitrate and en route to Mozambique hit a financial snag and docked in the Beruit port in 2013, according to legal documents and Lebanese officials, the Washington Post reported."

We'll wait until investigation is over.

Has anyone done the math on whether or not that amount of fertilizer would create the size of the explosion witnessed?

[Matt Dillon]

Well they just bombed themselves.

That they did.

[Matt Dillon]

Has anyone done the math on whether or not that amount of fertilizer would create the size of the explosion witnessed?

Almost 3000 tons? Yes it would.
I think McVeigh used 2 tons? Multiply that by 1315 or so.

[Sailor]

Almost 3000 tons? Yes it would.
I think McVeigh used 2 tons? Multiply that by 1315 or so.

I see you made it correct for Americans. Nice job. I have noticed the qty went from 2700 tonnes to 2700 tons in the media. Two different things. Good job.

[Doc Dutch]

Almost 3000 tons? Yes it would.
I think McVeigh used 2 tons? Multiply that by 1315 or so.

ROFL. First, you guessed. Second, all you'd done is prove you can't divide by two.

A real engineer would have been anal enough to look it up and verify their facts then presented those facts with links. Something like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklaho...ring_materials
In October 1994, McVeigh showed Michael and Lori Fortier a diagram he had drawn of the bomb he wanted to build.[42] McVeigh planned to construct a bomb containing more than 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) of ammonium nitrate fertilizer mixed with about 1,200 pounds (540 kg) of liquid nitromethane and 350 pounds (160 kg) of Tovex. Including the weight of the sixteen 55-U.S.-gallon drums in which the explosive mixture was to be packed, the bomb would have a combined weight of about 7,000 pounds (3,200 kg).