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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    Trump isn't hostile, he demands reciprocity -how is that "hostile?"
    Demanding the EU drop protectionism,that Canada open their dairy market, that Mexico stop stealing manufacturing-all done by NAFTA 2

    Biden is the status quo. China stays in the WTO and we get screwed with the developing nation status
    EU bans our agri, Japan our cars etc etc
    That is true, & why in the world should the second largest economy still have that?? It should have been outted years ago..........

    Time for that to end....... Now that is something positive, that would lessen their advantage.
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    That is true, & why in the world should the second largest economy still have that?? It should have been outted years ago..........

    Time for that to end....... Now that is something positive, that would lessen their advantage.
    thing is it won't end. it's baked into the WTO. The WTO is a poor construct that cant be fixed

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    thing is it won't end. it's baked into the WTO. The WTO is a poor construct that cant be fixed
    It could be, but it would take a lot of organizing/concerted effort by the west......

    Why is it not worth a try? Last year trump was wanting change, was he wrong??

    I don't think so........

    They should have no advantage-PERIOD... Not even their postal union bull shit which competes directly against American small business & leaving them unable to do the same in the chinese market place.............. AS AN EXAMPLE!!!
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    It could be, but it would take a lot of organizing/concerted effort by the west......

    Why is it not worth a try? Last year trump was wanting change, was he wrong??

    I don't think so........

    They should have no advantage-PERIOD... Not even their postal union bull shit which competes directly against American small business & leaving them unable to do the same in the chinese market place.............. AS AN EXAMPLE!!!
    one would have to negotiate with China to change Chinese status for ex. not happening

    I know you dont want to hear it,but we were on the right path.

    put Trump back and and he'll turn the screws again
    put Biden in and he meets with Xi and they toast and make nice while China is right back onto "Made in China 2025"

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    one would have to negotiate with China to change Chinese status for ex. not happening

    I know you dont want to hear it,but we were on the right path.

    put Trump back and and he'll turn the screws again
    put Biden in and he meets with Xi and they toast and make nice while China is right back onto "Made in China 2025"
    What progress has trump made on that path??

    They going to honor phase one & buy the beans still??

    The trade deficit has gotten smaller but I think from the recession/pandemic..

    THey still cheating every which way, stealing, spying etc etc etc
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    What progress has trump made on that path??

    They going to honor phase one & buy the beans still??

    The trade deficit has gotten smaller but I think from the recession/pandemic..

    THey still cheating every which way, stealing, spying etc etc etc
    'C'MON MAN"
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    Yes Trade deficit isn't important just now at the moment -lack of trade i,e, "global recession" is why China is slow walking away from Phase 1. There isn't enough US-Sino trade to force them to live upto the agreement.

    Then the election -do you think Biden would continue to negotiate the bi-lateral?? ROFL - not Beijing Biden!

    without a path to eventual ratification, and trade enough to be leveraged for compliance -
    it's DOA unless Trump gets in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone View Post
    I wonder what China has on Biden....
    receipts with his son's name on them for one thing......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Coming from a rube who never served in the military you are eager to send other peoples kids off to war, how about sending the imbecile who makes shapes for food to join up
    ???....so you are surrendering to China because you're afraid of war?.........is that the same motive that presses Slow Joe?......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    What progress has trump made on that path??

    They going to honor phase one & buy the beans still??

    The trade deficit has gotten smaller but I think from the recession/pandemic..

    THey still cheating every which way, stealing, spying etc etc etc
    They have to buy the pork. They lost between 1/4 and 1/2 million pigs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Dillon View Post
    They have to buy the pork. They lost between 1/4 and 1/2 million pigs.
    the US butchers 120 million pigs a year.....1/4 million is less than a day's worth.....
    https://www.google.com/search?q=how+...hrome&ie=UTF-8
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    Hello Bill,

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    SO what is the point of going there other than to piss off the CCP??

    Will there be more & what are they going to do about it??

    Stop buying beans??


    Cate Cadell and Ben Blanchard
    August 5, 2020, 10:09 PM
    By Cate Cadell and Ben Blanchard

    BEIJING/TAIPEI (Reuters) - China on Thursday threatened to take countermeasures over a trip to Taiwan by U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar, as the Chinese-claimed island geared up for its highest-level U.S. official visit in four decades.

    The visit, which begins on Sunday, adds to tensions between Beijing and Washington over everything from trade and human rights to the novel coronavirus pandemic. China calls Taiwan the most sensitive and important issue in its bilateral ties with the United States.

    Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin told a daily briefing in Beijing that any attempt to deny or challenge the "one China" principle, which states that Taiwan is part of China, would end in failure.

    "China will take strong countermeasures in response to the U.S. behaviour," Wang said, referring to Azar's visit.

    While he gave no details, China last month said it would impose sanctions on Lockheed Martin for involvement in U.S. arms sales to Taiwan.

    Taiwan has batted away China's criticism, saying Beijing has no right to comment.

    Washington broke off official ties with Taipei in 1979 in favour of Beijing. The Trump administration has made strengthening its support for the democratic island a priority, and boosted arms sales.

    Azar, who is scheduled to meet President Tsai Ing-wen, is coming to strengthen economic and public health cooperation with Taiwan, and support Taiwan's international role in fighting the pandemic.

    Taiwan is locked out of most global agencies, such as the World Health Organization, due to the objections of China, which views the island as a Chinese province that is not entitled to any of the rights that statehood confers.

    Taiwan Centres for Disease Control Deputy Director-General Chuang Jen-hsiang said Azar and members of the U.S. delegation would be tested for coronavirus before leaving for Taiwan, and again upon entry at the airport.

    Only if they are negative will they be allowed in.

    more @ source
    Hopefully, part of the visit will be learning how to handle the coronavirus pandemic from a master.

    Taiwan has a total of just 7 deaths from COVID-19.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Bill,



    Hopefully, part of the visit will be learning how to handle the coronavirus pandemic from a master.

    Taiwan has a total of just 7 deaths from COVID-19.
    its an island

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    its an island
    She's a pompous twat, Thailand has had only 58 deaths and not a single case in 2 months. It's also bloody hot and humid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    She's a pompous twat, Thailand has had only 58 deaths and not a single case in 2 months. It's also bloody hot and humid.
    that's amazing. Did Thailand ban Chinese travel?

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