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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    All you have is deflection and name-calling now.
    Disagreed. You don't want to talk like an adult. The discussion was Jesus the man and you keep going back to the divine thing like a child to candy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    It was caused when the universe before it farted this one into being. And before that universe, a universe had existed that farted it into existence.

    There is an unending chain of universes past and the chain will continue indefinitely.

    See how absurd I'm being? But it's no less absurd than to say that there is a magic person who created the universe.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

    "Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Dutch Uncle is a troll.
    Claims the child who says he has me on ignore.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

    "Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Why does it have to be created?
    it doesn't HAVE to be, but science tells us that it had a beginning.......if something had a beginning, something had to cause it.......there is no natural explanation, which leaves a supranatural one......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    it doesn't HAVE to be, but science tells us that it had a beginning.......if something had a beginning, something had to cause it.......there is no natural explanation, which leaves a supranatural one......
    No. Big Bang is only the origin of the current status of our universe. Nothing about it having to have been caused by something else. All empirical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Who created the god who created it? It becomes barbershop mirrors, a never-ending vision problem of what came first. The truth is man created god. He created lots of gods.
    Nordie, who always publically disdains circular arguments, falls back on his own favorite circle........
    Isaiah 6:5
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Your problem. BigBang was not caused.
    .....no, won't fly.......one second, no energy, no matter......the next second, a universe full of both......what happened in between....."oh, nuttin!"......
    Isaiah 6:5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    You're dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    .....no, won't fly.......one second, no energy, no matter......the next second, a universe full of both......what happened in between....."oh, nuttin!"......
    No. There is no measure of before Big Bang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    You're the one claiming something exists. Until you can offer proof of your god, I see no reason to believe it exists.
    that would only be true if some one was required to prove something to you...../.the reality is none of us cares whether you believe it or not........most of us think heaven will be a much better place if you aren't there......
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    No. There is no measure of before Big Bang.
    "measure"........no, but there is a very basic scientific understanding that it wasn't the universe before it became the universe.....
    Isaiah 6:5
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    "measure"........no, but there is a very basic scientific understanding that it wasn't the universe before it became the universe.....
    Not sure what you mean. The Big Bang only explains our current universe as evolving from that event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Not sure what you mean. The Big Bang only explains our current universe as evolving from that event.
    it marks the beginning of our universe.....whatever might have been before is NOT our universe
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    it marks the beginning of our universe.....whatever might have been before is NOT our universe
    so it's none of our business?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    .....no, won't fly.......one second, no energy, no matter......the next second, a universe full of both......what happened in between....."oh, nuttin!"......
    Close. https://www.physicsoftheuniverse.com..._timeline.html

    Obviously there is zero understanding of why all of that happened because there is zero evidence. We know it happened but don't know why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    it marks the beginning of our universe.....whatever might have been before is NOT our universe
    But the Big Bang says nothing about whether there is a before or not.

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