Atheists more Intelligent

[Doc Dutch]

Yes, it does, that made me truly laugh out loud.

God bless George Carlin.

[Phantasmal]

Do you reject Aesop's Fables? The Art of War? Why would you reject the ancient wisdom found in Psalms or Proverbs?

The Bible is a very interesting collection of literature

2 Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth;
for your love is better than wine.
3 Your oils have a pleasing fragrance.
Your name is oil poured out,
therefore the virgins love you...

The Song of Songs 1:2-3

[Phantasmal]

God bless George Carlin.

He was brilliant

[Doc Dutch]

The Bible is a very interesting collection of literature

[FONT="]2 Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth; [/FONT]
[FONT="]for your love is better than wine. [/FONT]
[FONT="]3 Your oils have a pleasing fragrance. [/FONT]
[FONT="]Your name is oil poured out, [/FONT]
therefore the virgins love you...

The Song of Songs 1:2-3

"Over four thousand years in the making!"

[Phantasmal]

Sorry but that's overly simplistic in my opinion. The Bible is a lot of things and existed in a time when there might be only one book/set of scrolls in the entire tribe. It has a creation history*, the equivalent of Hammurabi's Code, healthy dietary codes, history, etc. It would have evolved, not just suddenly thought up by ancient Jews like an political campaign slogan.

While some people did use religion to "control" others, most often it gave them all a common basis for society.



*most cultures have a creation story. About the first 30 years of a modern human's life is spent in a search of identity. The Bible helped give the ancient Hebrews that identity.

Simplicity applies in some instances. Religion is about control, spirituality is about the deeper meaning of life. The various books of the Bible were written for different purposes, the compilation of the books was about control.

[Nordberg]

Every genius engineer I know is a devout Christian. At least 7..
Even the leader of engineers in America is a devout Christian.

Yeah, sure. Scientists and doctors are largely not believers in any gods.
Many engineers are conservatives. They are Trumpies too. That must mean something profound, but it eludes me.

[Doc Dutch]

Simplicity applies in some instances. Religion is about control, spirituality is about the deeper meaning of life. The various books of the Bible were written for different purposes, the compilation of the books was about control.

Just like "common sense gun regulations" are about control? LOL

Some people do or have used religion as only about "control", but most do not. It's common anchor for people in a hostile world. No better or worse than any other tool of mankind just like politics.

EDIT: Agreed 100% on spirituality as the deeper meaning. Religion is a tool.

[T. A. Gardner]

Yeah, sure. Scientists and doctors are largely not believers in any gods.
Many engineers are conservatives. They are Trumpies too. That must mean something profound, but it eludes me.

Maybe it's because engineers have to produce tangible results so they're far more likely to pray to God that things work because their job and their ass is on the line...

[Matt Dillon]

Yeah, sure. Scientists and doctors are largely not believers in any gods.
Many engineers are conservatives. They are Trumpies too. That must mean something profound, but it eludes me.

I don't doubt it does.

[Doc Dutch]

Yeah, sure. Scientists and doctors are largely not believers in any gods.
Many engineers are conservatives. They are Trumpies too. That must mean something profound, but it eludes me.

I think you're being baited. "Every genius engineer I know". Dude, how many fucking "genius engineers" do you think he knows? My guess?: FUCKING ZERO.

He's trolling you. Which seems more likely; that he's fucking with everyone or he actually knows at least one "genius engineer"?

[Matt Dillon]

Maybe it's because engineers have to produce tangible results so they're far more likely to pray to God that things work because their job and their ass is on the line...

You might be onto something..

[Charoite]

This "entire thread" is not a microcosm of America. It's a minor subset of political junkies and nutjobs....except for. I'm just here for the science.

Well, the article he posted isn't exactly a rare occurrence. It's an often echoed topic. I'm liberal but I'm also Christian through and through. While it doesn't reach war on Christmas levels or other rightist bs you do get an earful being on the left. Normally it's brushed off because it's often deserved thanks to fundies and fakes dragging the brand. Still, you run across some stuff that is Trump level douchey. It's odd to me why someone believing in God would bug some. As far as I'm concerned you could worship a toaster that never burns for all I care. As long as it doesn't harm anyone that is.

[Matt Dillon]

I think you're being baited. "Every genius engineer I know". Dude, how many fucking "genius engineers" do you think he knows? My guess?: FUCKING ZERO.

He's trolling you. Which seems more likely; that he's fucking with everyone or he actually knows at least one "genius engineer"?

Actually, it's around 8. Three are related. One I went to school with..others are friends.

[jacksonsprat22]

Simplicity applies in some instances. Religion is about control, spirituality is about the deeper meaning of life. The various books of the Bible were written for different purposes, the compilation of the books was about control.

The religions of the Book (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) are authoritarian because they conceive God as the author of the world. Thus we are supposed to worship authority and power.

[Doc Dutch]

Well, the article he posted isn't exactly a rare occurrence. It's an often echoed topic. I'm liberal but I'm also Christian through and through. While it doesn't reach war on Christmas levels or other rightist bs you do get an earful being on the left. Normally it's brushed off because it's often deserved thanks to fundies and fakes dragging the brand. Still, you run across some stuff that is Trump level douchey. It's odd to me why someone believing in God would bug some. As far as I'm concerned you could worship a toaster that never burns for all I care. As long as it doesn't harm anyone that is.

Sure it is just like a lot of the "bait threads" be it abortion, gay rights, guns, etc. The same arguments, the same division the same "no resolution". IMO, it's done out of boredom.

Summers are labeled "the Silly Season" and election year summers are, by far, the silliest.