Why I am against mail in voting

[Nordberg]

there is some. fact. it's undeniably less secure. maybe you don't care about security, but that's a different issue.

The fact is mail-in has been shown to be more fraud-free. It is the opposite of what you were taught by Infowars.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

The fact is mail-in has been shown to be more fraud-free. It is the opposite of what you were taught by Infowars.

no it hasn't. that's not a fact.

[Evmetro]

Didn't Donald just tell us that mail in voting was OK?

Lefties are ready, willing, and able to cheat, and cheating is what lefties will do when given the opportunity. They WILL cheat just like clockwork, and we all know it. Mass mail in voting provides the opportunity to cheat, which means it absolutely WILL happen.

It is unfair to provide an opportunity to cheat when one side is for law and order, and the other side wants to lie, cheat or steal.

[floridafan]

Lefties are ready, willing, and able to cheat, and cheating is what lefties will do when given the opportunity. They WILL cheat just like clockwork, and we all know it. Mass mail in voting provides the opportunity to cheat, which means it absolutely WILL happen.

It is unfair to provide an opportunity to cheat when one side is for law and order, and the other side wants to lie, cheat or steal.

You win the banner for the most bull shit post of the day, possibly the week, my sweetest.

[Nordberg]

Mail in is safer from fraud regardless of what trump says. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-wo...ote-mail-fraud Oregon has had all mail in from 2000 and so far have accumulated 12 cases of fraud.

[T. A. Gardner]

Mail in is safer from fraud regardless of what trump says. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-wo...ote-mail-fraud Oregon has had all mail in from 2000 and so far have accumulated 12 cases of fraud.

Or, it is easier to conduct fraud and harder to detect when it is being done. The Brennan Center is a cheerleader for mail-in voting and all things Democrat so they're hardly a neutral source.
For example, the allowing of ballot harvesting is one way fraud could be conducted on a mass scale by a relatively few persons and would go undetected.

Another would be to simply get a copy of the official ballot and then print more. Sign them fraudulently and turn them in in mass. There would be virtually no way to know who committed the fraud even if it were caught. And, if not caught then thousands, even tens of thousands of fraudulent ballots could be counted. It wouldn't be hard to print ballots. They aren't designed like paper money to be hard or impossible to counterfeit.

[Nordberg]

Or, it is easier to conduct fraud and harder to detect when it is being done. The Brennan Center is a cheerleader for mail-in voting and all things Democrat so they're hardly a neutral source.
For example, the allowing of ballot harvesting is one way fraud could be conducted on a mass scale by a relatively few persons and would go undetected.

Another would be to simply get a copy of the official ballot and then print more. Sign them fraudulently and turn them in in mass. There would be virtually no way to know who committed the fraud even if it were caught. And, if not caught then thousands, even tens of thousands of fraudulent ballots could be counted. It wouldn't be hard to print ballots. They aren't designed like paper money to be hard or impossible to counterfeit.

Brennan is no cheerleader, but I expect replies that slanted from rightys. They have focused on voter fraud for a long time. They are the authority. That is why you attack them. The Repubs have no facts. Mail-in has been checked many times and by many sources. Honest ones find mail- in very clean. All our voting has been proven nearly fraud-free. But Trump is getting whipped and you have to protect the thief in chief. So the only possible way for Trump to lose, in your Trump conned mind, is if he is cheated. Truth is, that is the only way he can win. He is certainly not above doing that.

[T. A. Gardner]

Brennan is no cheerleader, but I expect replies that slanted from rightys. They have focused on voter fraud for a long time. They are the authority. That is why you attack them. The Repubs have no facts. Mail-in has been checked many times and by many sources. Honest ones find mail- in very clean. All our voting has been proven nearly fraud-free. But Trump is getting whipped and you have to protect the thief in chief. So the only possible way for Trump to lose, in your Trump conned mind, is if he is cheated. Truth is, that is the only way he can win. He is certainly not above doing that.

Fraud is harder to detect with mail in balloting. As I pointed out ballot harvesting is ripe for all sorts of undetected fraud.

Another is ballot swapping. A variant is done this way. A person registers to vote in two or more states. Since voter rolls between states are not cross checked, this goes undetected. The address they give is actually that of someone of like-mind that lives in that state. When an election comes up, the person living in the state fed ex's the out-of-state registrant(s) their ballots and they do the same back to that person. Each votes then returns the ballot to the original person to be sent in. Since there are weeks of voting using mail-in ballots there's plenty of time for this to occur.

I know of one case where this was done between 12 people in Ohio and Arizona several elections ago. They slipped up in the process and got detected and caught but that could well be a very rare exception and no one would be the wiser.

[Evmetro]

It is obvious why lefties are FOR mass mail in voting and the party of law and order is against it.

[Nordberg]

Fraud is harder to detect with mail in balloting. As I pointed out ballot harvesting is ripe for all sorts of undetected fraud.

Another is ballot swapping. A variant is done this way. A person registers to vote in two or more states. Since voter rolls between states are not cross checked, this goes undetected. The address they give is actually that of someone of like-mind that lives in that state. When an election comes up, the person living in the state fed ex's the out-of-state registrant(s) their ballots and they do the same back to that person. Each votes then returns the ballot to the original person to be sent in. Since there are weeks of voting using mail-in ballots there's plenty of time for this to occur.

I know of one case where this was done between 12 people in Ohio and Arizona several elections ago. They slipped up in the process and got detected and caught but that could well be a very rare exception and no one would be the wiser.

You are believing what you wish to without any evidence at all, Elections do get checked and the American elections are practically fraud-free. You rightys are trying to throw dirt at the election in Nov. That is obvious since you all repeat that same right-wing crap because Trump is going to get stomped and you want your Fascist to stay in power.
You can mail a truckload of ballots to someone and it will not matter. One vote will count. The rest will be fireplace kindling. They will not count a truckload. Once your vote is matched to the precinct book, that person is done voting. They would not tabulate one after another. The entire concept of fraudulent mailin is absurd.
Do you think a person will actually drive to other states to register? Do you really? Why? They risk jail time.

[T. A. Gardner]

You are believing what you wish to without any evidence at all, Elections do get checked and the American elections are practically fraud-free. You rightys are trying to throw dirt at the election in Nov. That is obvious since you all repeat that same right-wing crap because Trump is going to get stomped and you want your Fascist to stay in power.

This is patently untrue. Elections do little to prevent fraud and arguing there is none is just trying to prove a negative. Fraud cases are found and prosecuted regularly. Most amount to small amounts in the tens of ballots. I'm not some "righty" trying to throw dirt on anything. I am someone who has a reasonable belief that if you hold an election and there are no attempts to identify who's voting, ballots being moved by third parties and persons unknown between the voter and the vote counters then you greatly increase the chances of fraud.

You can mail a truckload of ballots to someone and it will not matter. One vote will count. The rest will be fireplace kindling. They will not count a truckload. Once your vote is matched to the precinct book, that person is done voting. They would not tabulate one after another. The entire concept of fraudulent mailin is absurd.
Do you think a person will actually drive to other states to register? Do you really? Why? They risk jail time.

Between 2012 and 2018, 28.3 million mail-in ballots remain unaccounted for, according to data from the federal Election Assistance Commission. The missing ballots amount to nearly one in five of all absentee ballots and ballots mailed to voters residing in states that do elections exclusively by mail.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...s_143033.html#!

Is that a problem?

Voter fraud is too nominal to make a difference in any given election, goes one popular line of argument. But tell that to voters in parts of Florida, Missouri, New York, and North Carolina in recent years.

Districts in these four states saw election outcomes overturned after absentee voter fraud came to light.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/04/...il-in-ballots/

Election experts say Trump is partially correct, that there is slightly more fraud in mail-voting than in-person voting. But they caution that both can be done safely and securely, and that election fraud is extremely rare in all instances.

"Where there is fraud in the system, it really seems to be in mail balloting," said Lonna Atkeson, a political science professor at the University of New Mexico. "There's some, there's not a lot. I think there's a little bit."

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...ump-says-it-is

If it's not close then what fraud exists won't matter. But if the outcome of an election is close, fraud can change the results.

[Evmetro]

You are believing what you wish to without any evidence at all, Elections do get checked and the American elections are practically fraud-free. You rightys are trying to throw dirt at the election in Nov. That is obvious since you all repeat that same right-wing crap because Trump is going to get stomped and you want your Fascist to stay in power.
You can mail a truckload of ballots to someone and it will not matter. One vote will count. The rest will be fireplace kindling. They will not count a truckload. Once your vote is matched to the precinct book, that person is done voting. They would not tabulate one after another. The entire concept of fraudulent mailin is absurd.
Do you think a person will actually drive to other states to register? Do you really? Why? They risk jail time.

Why do you think lefties are all FOR mass mail in voting while the party of law and order is against it? Don't worry, I won't be holding my breath for an objective answer. The answer is self evident.