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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    sorry, not sorry......fake news from an admittedly lib'rul source.......cawacko is correct.......
    What's really funny here is their fight against the Supplemental Poverty Measure. It's not like some right wing group created it. It was a collaboration of academics and government agencies the determined we need a better way to measure and understand poverty in this country. Thus they came up with this more detailed measure. And when one drops the partisan mindset it makes total sense that cost of living, benefits received etc. etc. all play a role in determine one's economic standing and that's what the SPM does.

    And what can be misleading about the county's with the highest poverty rates is that rural and urban areas are very different. We all know many cities have massive poverty numbers but because there is also significant wealth so close by those county's don't show up. Many of the rural areas don't have the same wealth nearby. And these counties may have only 5K people in them compared to tens of thousands of people in poverty in an urban area. So it's not that there isn't rural poverty. There clearly is. But you have to look deeper at the numbers to get a full understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
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    In SanFran it is illegal to use any other search engine, I know, but there are others out there and some of them do not track your every freaking move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    it makes total sense that cost of living, benefits received etc. etc. all play a role in determine one's economic standing and that's what the SPM does.
    It should be a no brainer.......$1000 goes a lot farther in Sioux Falls, SD than it does in San Francisco.......

    there instead of it being one third of your rent, it could be all your rent, groceries for a couple of weeks, gas money for a month and a six pack of beer......
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I'm going by overall living standards, not single issues.
    Then by all means show some evidence to back up your claims.

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    As a counter to your argument, one measure of quality of life might be happiness. Blue states tend to be unhappy ones.



    Same goes for "well being."



    Home ownership is higher in Red states



    Homelessness is far higher in Blue states

    Now, if you talk about nearly meaningless measures like how many people in a state have a bachelor's degree, or average incomes, or the price of homes, blue states do much better. But money doesn't buy happiness nor does it bring an overall increase in quality of life.

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    Back to the OP maybe there's an answer for this but what came to my mind is the number of variables involved. More specifically how do we compare the different circumstances of people? For example, there are some people who are born, raised and live their whole live in one city/area. There are others who immigrate to the U.S. later in life (in California over 25% of the population is foreign born). There are people who live in multiple states as well as all over the world in their lifetime. How does that get calculated? Are they treated the same in the analysis?

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    Hello cawacko,

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    I suppose it never occurred to you there are other ways to search the internet besides 'googling something...'
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
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    I suppose it never occurred to you there are other ways to search the internet besides 'googling something...'
    It’s a phrase of speech. People can use whatever search engine they want. We’re all adults, I would assume people are aware of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Imbecile

    Accept the fact that you're ignorant .. thus requiring for you to look shit up before you speak
    BULLSHIT numbers are meaningless, dumbass. It doesn't matter where they come from. Stop making shit up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    An opinion piece is not data, liar. Go fuck yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    republican states are shithole states... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...y_poverty_rate
    Wikipedia dismissed on sight. Stop quoting made up shit, liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
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    I suppose it never occurred to you there are other ways to search the internet besides 'googling something...'
    A lot of Googles power comes from having an almost 75% market share of internet ads.......it is nuts that they are allowed to have so much control.....better smarter people would not have allowed this to happen
    America is awash in empty angry poorly formed people who are out to hurt us. Prepare for Hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    But the article shows other factors. You're only going by one factor and you're singling out two states to represent all of the blue states.
    Special pleading fallacy, liar. Go fuck yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post


    Looks more like a regional issue than one of individual states and who's governing them. Outside of the South, there also appears to be a very small difference between states. The second area of low life expectancy appears to be the Rust Belt. It's better than the South, but worse than the rest of the country.

    The conclusion that could be reached is climate, long term use (industrialization and pollution in the rust belt), and factors other than government play a significant role in life expectancy.
    All conclusions from such data is just conjecture. Correlation is not causation. Nothing says there is any single cause or that the cause is consistent across States or the SOTC either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Wikipedia dismissed on sight. Stop quoting made up shit, liar.

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