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    Default Postpone the election?

    Even fellow Republicans cannot defend Trump this time

    by Daniel Hannan (former Conservative MEP and long-time Brexiteer)

    Too late to salvage their electoral prospects, but perhaps not too late to salvage their honour, America’s Republicans have remembered what they are supposed to stand for. Donald Trump’s suggestion that the November election be postponed was too much for even the most obedient of his Congressional supporters. One after another, they lined up to distance themselves from the President’s outrageous Tweet.

    They took their time. Over the past four years, American conservatives have performed some wrenching contortions. Foreign policy hawks have forgiven the President’s closeness to Vladimir Putin. Evangelical Christians have found themselves arguing that it is fine to pay off a porn star and then lie about it provided there is no technical violation of campaign finance rules. Republicans who extolled the importance of character defended one blustering, dishonest pronouncement after another.

    To some extent, their attitude was transactional. As long as Trump was cutting taxes and regulations and appointing judges who believed in the Constitution, conservatives were prepared to overlook his character flaws. Not that Trump was interested in qualified support. He wanted to be adored on his own account, and expected Republicans to change their positions when he changed his. He demanded loud flattery from his party – and, to an extraordinary degree, he got it.

    Whether Trump was seeking to undermine the legitimacy of an election he expects to lose, or whether he simply wanted to shift the conversation away from bad economic news, he was playing with fire. Civil wars happen, not when people can’t agree on what to do, but when they can’t agree on who constitutes the legitimate government. The American republic has lasted for two and a half centuries precisely because it has been, in the phrase of John Adams, its second president, “a government of laws, not of men”.

    So why this late parting of ways? Partly because Republican legislators have a sense of decency [ed: ???!!!]. Their party has traditionally sought to constrain executive power, and Trump represents precisely the kind of “Caesarism” that the Founders warned against – the belief that the ends justify the means, and that the ruler is bigger than the rules. Trump’s latest idiocy – not even during the world wars did anyone cancel a presidential election – was too much.

    Perhaps more significantly, they can see a post-Trump GOP coming into view. If, as now seems likely, the Donald is dumped in November, there will be a power struggle between his autocratic admirers and those mainstream Republicans who believe in free trade, low spending and limited government.

    If traditional conservatives miss this chance, they won’t get another.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-defend-trump/


    Evidently Hannan doesn’t buy that Trump was “joking”. He was testing whether he could get away with torpedoing the Constitution. Haha.

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    I wish Trump could match Fauci's stance and postpone the election until there are no new cases of the virus that Fauci want's to lock down the country for. Fauci says he wants the country locked down until there are no new cases, but I bet lefties would squirm if Trump could match Fauci with that same crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    I wish Trump could match Fauci's stance and postpone the election until there are no new cases of the virus that Fauci want's to lock down the country for. Fauci says he wants the country locked down until there are no new cases, but I bet lefties would squirm if Trump could match Fauci with that same crap.
    Many states have mail in ballots because of the pandemic. Surprise! Trump opposes mail in ballots.

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    Mail -in is the answer. It has been proven to be very safe with .0004 percent of corrupt votes. Mail-in during a pandemic is the right thing to do. Rightys do not have methods of suppressing mail-in, so you can see why Repubs are so alarmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    Even fellow Republicans cannot defend Trump this time ...

    ....https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-defend-trump/


    Evidently Hannan doesn’t buy that Trump was “joking”. He was testing whether he could get away with torpedoing the Constitution. Haha.
    Trump is like a sexual harasser caught red-handed and claiming "I was only joking!"

    The reaction of Republicans to Trump's "joke" should give Americans confidence in our system of government.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...c21_story.html
    President Trump drew immediate rebukes from across the political spectrum Thursday after proposing a delay to the November election and claiming without evidence that widespread mail balloting would be a “catastrophic disaster” leading to fraudulent results.

    The suggestion represented Trump’s latest, and most dramatic, attempt to undermine public faith in the Nov. 3 election, a trend that has grown more frequent and emphatic as polls have shown his political fortunes declining. The president has attacked mail voting nearly 70 times since late March in interviews, remarks and tweets, including at least 17 times this month, according to a tally by The Washington Post.

    Thursday’s tweet came on the heels of a devastating report showing that the economy shrank nearly 10 percent from April through June, the largest quarterly decline since the government began publishing such data 70 years ago.

    The president does not have the authority to change the date of the general election, which is set by Congress. Trump encountered unprecedented pushback to his idea from senior Republicans on the Hill and conservative leaders outside government, as well as legal scholars, historians and Democrats....

    ...Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) was among many Republican senators who quickly and unequivocally rejected Trump’s idea. “Never in the history of the country, through wars, depressions and the Civil War, have we ever not had a federally scheduled election on time,” McConnell said in a television interview with WNKY of Bowling Green, Ky. “We’ll find a way to do that again this Nov. 3.”....
    "No Better Friend, No Worse Enemy --
    Нет лучшего друга, нет худшего врага"

    General James N. Mattis, USMC

    Barry Goldwater speech to Congress 1981

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    The super conservative Federalist Society was so repelled by that suggestion to delay the election, that they are for impeaching him again.

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