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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    No plagiarism. Really? You have to be new to a forum not to know that you shouldn't plagiarize?
    While you are correct, he has 9 posts to his name. Give him a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Practical View Post
    How about ad hominem?
    He's correct, but, IMO, a bit of an overreaction to a n00b with 9 posts. Relax and have some fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Practical View Post
    Apologies for that as well. Just easier to copy and paste but I will hand type it next time. Never considered myself dishonest but if that is where the bar is now I will refrain going forward. Thank you for the tip, new to the forum and not sure how things roll here yet. No Wikipedia, duly noted.
    Again, no need to apologize. Your use of the association fallacy is correct. Presenting the video is quite acceptable. 10 minutes is not a bad length for a video either. Your summary made it clear what the video is describing. That's a perfectly acceptable way of doing it.

    While Wikipedia is a lousy reference source due to their bias, inaccuracies, incomplete articles and oftentimes just downright wrong information, your use of the association fallacy is correct. It does not matter where you got the information. Concart is attempting a bulverism fallacy.

    You say you are new here. Welcome! This forum is only lightly moderated, using a specific set of guidelines designed to restrict illegal use of copyrighted material or sexual content. Enjoy yourself here! This IS a political forum, and people often get easily ticked off here. Meh. That's politics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    No plagiarism. Really? You have to be new to a forum not to know that you shouldn't plagiarize?
    Fine. I will call you out whenever you plagiarize in the future. It won't be long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Exactly, always found it amusing how someone will find a podcast from an obscure nobody that agrees with their point of view and pass it on as if it is authoritative, my barber has umpteen views on nearly everything, that doesn’t mean I find him informative
    Bulverism fallacy. The argument is valid, regardless of its source. It is a fallacy to attack the source of an argument, rather than the argument itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    While you are correct, he has 9 posts to his name. Give him a chance.
    He is not correct. Neither are you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Bulverism fallacy. The argument is valid, regardless of its source. It is a fallacy to attack the source of an argument, rather than the argument itself.
    Always cracks me up, here you go, take your pick, with hundreds available, anyone can find one to make it appear they know what they are talking about to serve as a deflection

    “List of fallacies”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Always cracks me up, here you go, take your pick, with hundreds available, anyone can find one to make it appear they know what they are talking about to serve as a deflection

    “List of fallacies”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
    Denial of logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    I hope it doesn't go that far, but it sure looks like it will. War is horrible. I do not want it, but it seems liberals may force it upon people anyway.
    If it comes to that, God help us all.
    I'm terrified.

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    There aren't actually very many people who want a civil war. The vast majority will bend-over backward to avoid it.

    Even in 1860, Congress was actually in the process of passing an amendment to protect slavery where it already existed. Americans did not want secession or war. The problem is, secession still happened, and the CSA wanted war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    I'm terrified.
    You should be goddammit!!! Into the Night rules the Night!....but he's not Master of his own Domain soooooo.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    There aren't actually very many people who want a civil war. The vast majority will bend-over backward to avoid it.

    Even in 1860, Congress was actually in the process of passing an amendment to protect slavery where it already existed. Americans did not want secession or war. The problem is, secession still happened, and the CSA wanted war.
    How can the CSA have wanted war if it was the War of Northern Aggression? Lincoln invaded Virginia. The vast majority of Civil War battles were with the Union invaders in Southern states. Lincoln himself wrote that he was fighting the war, not to end slavery, but to force the secessionist states back into the Union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    How can the CSA have wanted war if it was the War of Northern Aggression? Lincoln invaded Virginia. The vast majority of Civil War battles were with the Union invaders in Southern states. Lincoln himself wrote that he was fighting the war, not to end slavery, but to force the secessionist states back into the Union.
    Because they committed an act of war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    Because they committed an act of war?
    LOL Thanks for the admission.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    ...Americans did not want secession or war. The problem is, secession still happened, and the CSA wanted war.
    Secession isn't an act of war. Invading a state that seceded is an act of war.
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