What Makes People Believe Slavery was the Reason for the US Civil War?

[Frank Apisa]

The letter of succession by the States of Georgia, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas and Virginia.

Exactly.

The Articles of Secession (not succession) tell us that secession was because of slavery...

...and the Civil War was because of secession.

Ya beat me to it.

[IBDaMann]

No, it was about slavery, I’m not the one in denial.

You are in HEAVY denial. I posted the document. You think no one can see it.

[StoneByStone]

Yes, "entire establishment" would be accurate ... and that includes leftists.

It's very telling that none of the establishment are willing to elaborate on why they allow themselves to be manipulated into believing that slavery was the cause of the Civil War.

"Slavery" is not the answer to every question.

It's two things. First, the North had to justify the war and their treatment of the South after the war was over. Secondly, when the Jews infiltrated the media, they started using slavery as a major anti-white talking-point.

[IBDaMann]

Exactly.

The Articles of Secession (not succession) tell us that secession was because of slavery...

...and the Civil War was because of secession.

Ya beat me to it.

Here's the insurmountable problem with your argument. You are claiming that anything can be declared the direct cause of the US Civil War if it can be linked by some chain of cause->effect, no matter how far removed.

You claim that the Civil War caused by the North's invasion caused by the South secession caused by the Federal government violating southern State sovereignty caused by the formation of the Republican Party to end slavery caused by the existence of slavery in the southern States ... somehow makes "slavery" the direct cause of the Civil War. Absurd.

Taking your illogic one step further, now everything involving the Revolutionary War is the direct cause of the Civil War. So is the Protestant Reformation. Ultimately, your argument registers the Big Bang as the direct cause of the Civil War.

Your logic is absurd. "Slavery" is not the answer to all questions.

[anonymoose]

Nope. You are in denial ... of the very document that I posted. That is absurd. Either you cannot read or you have been ordered to believe that "slavery" is the answer to all questions. Equally absurd.

The reason was clearly stated in the document:



The word "slavery" is not in there. Even if it were included, that would still make it an indirect cause thrice removed. But if you try to use that logic then your argument breaks down due to bigger problems.

No one is denying that the South had slavery and awesome bread pudding. Neither was the cause of the Civil War.



Yes, the South had awesome bread pudding, but just because the South *HAD* something doesn't mean it was the cause of the Civil War. That's absurd.

My favorite desert - if done right. Most restaurants in Alaska pour sauce over a bread roll and call it *bread pudding ".
It's worth it to make my own.

[IBDaMann]

My favorite desert - if done right. Most restaurants in Alaska pour sauce over a bread roll and call it *bread pudding ".
It's worth it to make my own.

It has been decades since I have lived in the Mississippi Gulf Coast so I don't know if things are still the same, but back when the casinos began every casino and many restaurants contracted with local chefs to be the sole vendor (i.e. monopoly) of their particular "secret-for-generations" recipe bread pudding as a selling point for their buffets. Every casino had someone's awesome bread pudding and they were all in competition with each other over it.

I remember being able to talk to the woman supplying her bread pudding to the Imperial Palace ... she just baked it in her home and was well-paid for it.

For a while it was the bane of my existence because I would go back for seconds and sometimes thirds ... and bread pudding really helps pack on the weight.

[anonymoose]

It has been decades since I have lived in the Mississippi Gulf Coast so I don't know if things are still the same, but back when the casinos began every casino and many restaurants contracted with local chefs to be the sole vendor (i.e. monopoly) of their particular "secret-for-generations" recipe bread pudding as a selling point for their buffets. Every casino had someone's awesome bread pudding and they were all in competition with each other over it.

I remember being able to talk to the woman supplying her bread pudding to the Imperial Palace ... she just baked it in her home and was well-paid for it.

For a while it was the bane of my existence because I would go back for seconds and sometimes thirds ... and bread pudding really helps pack on the weight.

If you made it yourself and saw all the butter, sugar and heavy cream you definitely wouldn't go back for seconds.

[Frank Apisa]

Here's the insurmountable problem with your argument. You are claiming that anything can be declared the direct cause of the US Civil War if it can be linked by some chain of cause->effect, no matter how far removed.

You claim that the Civil War caused by the North's invasion caused by the South secession caused by the Federal government violating southern State sovereignty caused by the formation of the Republican Party to end slavery caused by the existence of slavery in the southern States ... somehow makes "slavery" the direct cause of the Civil War. Absurd.

Taking your illogic one step further, now everything involving the Revolutionary War is the direct cause of the Civil War. So is the Protestant Reformation. Ultimately, your argument registers the Big Bang as the direct cause of the Civil War.

Your logic is absurd. "Slavery" is not the answer to all questions.

The reason for the Civil War...was slavery. The south wanted it to continue.

For people who want to think slavery was not the reason...anything will do.

Fine.

We are seeing denial on a galactic scale right now in America...and your denial is like a spoonful of water in an ocean.

[IBDaMann]

If you made it yourself and saw all the butter, sugar and heavy cream you definitely wouldn't go back for seconds.

I don't watch how sausage is made either.

[IBDaMann]

The reason for the Civil War...was slavery.

You were told to believe that by your slavemasters and you OBEYED. No amount of truth to the contrary can break the iron grip your self-imposed delusion has over you.

You probably believe in Global Warming as well, and that looting is justified and peaceful. You are beyond help.

[Charoite]

No, it was about slavery, I’m not the one in denial.

Pretty sure the guys just a political agitator troll anyway. We've been getting several lately popping up as newbies delivering the same rhetoric.

[Frank Apisa]

You were told to believe that by your slavemasters and you OBEYED. No amount of truth to the contrary can break the iron grip your self-imposed delusion has over you.

You probably believe in Global Warming as well, and that looting is justified and peaceful. You are beyond help.

You've got some serious problems kid. You go on IGNORE immediately after I post this. Anyone else arguing with this guy should do the same.

[AProudLefty]

There's no trolling involved. It was an sincere and honest question. You can tell because the question was clear, easy and straightforward ... and leftists refuse to answer.

That's how you know.

Anyway, the obvious answer returns us to how leftists let their slavemasters do their thinking for them and how they don't have permission to address questions like mine on their own.

... but if you want to answer, I promise I won't tell anyone, i.e. it'll be just between you and me. Cross my heart, hope to die.

[I'll give you a little help - your official response must deny something important and fundamental]

GASP! We have a Captain Obvious here!

Anyway, Democratic Party is not the same party of today. You know better than that.

And know what else? Lincoln was racist as hell.

[IBDaMann]

You've got some serious problems kid. You go on IGNORE immediately after I post this. Anyone else arguing with this guy should do the same.

Yep, like I said, you are beyond help. You are a typical history-revising self-loathing uneducated loser who was so desperate to be accepted that he agreed to be the pet dog for the ruling DNC establishment in exchange for reassurances that he "belongs." Too funny. Now that someone else is doing your thinking for you, you have forgotten how to do it for yourself.

I understand your perdicament. You need to silence all who cause reality to seep into your safe-space.

L - O - S - E - R - - S - N - O - W - F - L - A - K - E ... melts at the first sign of heat.

Allow me to thank you for ignoring me. Now I don't have to read your whining, sniveling 2nd-grade drivel. I can just snipe you in peace.

I'm not going away. I'll se you around.

[IBDaMann]

Anyway, Democratic Party is not the same party of today.

Yeah, today's DNC is more of a Führerbunker issuing commands to the ANTIFA brownshirts and the SturmaBLMteilung.

And know what else? Lincoln was racist as hell.

Are you trying to tell me that you knew Lincoln personally? I have a sneaking suspicion that you actually never did.

By the way, I think you mean to say that you believe Lincoln was a bigot. I'm betting that you can't specify anything racist that he did. Don't worry, you get a pass. Most leftists never learned the correct meanings of "bigotry" and "racism" and just follow the lead of the closest mistaken leftist who is using the two words interchangeably to mean "someone I don't like."

"That central idea in our political system at the beginning was, and until recently continued to be, the equality of men. And although it was always submitted patiently to, whatever inequality there seemed to be, as a matter of actual necessity, its constant working has been a steady progress toward the practical equality of all men. In what I have done I cannot claim to have acted from any peculiar consideration of the colored people as a separate and distinct class in the community, but from the simple conviction that all the individuals of that class are members of the community, and in virtue of their manhood entitled to every original right enjoyed by any other member. We feel, therefore, that all legal distinction between individuals of the same community, founded in any such circumstances as color, origin and the like, are hostile to the genius of our institutions, and incompatible with the true history of American liberty. Slavery and oppression must cease, or American liberty must perish. - Abraham Lincoln, September 1858