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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    So the Earth isn't warming. Gotit.
    How hot is the sun? How hot is the surface of the moon during daytime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMode View Post
    Temperature and precipitation are among the characteristics of climate.
    I juuuuuuuuust explained to you what climate is yet you continue to parrot stupidity.....


    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMode View Post
    You don't believe temperature and precipitation can be measured?
    Neither temperature nor precipitation are climate, so your question is irrelevant.

    E.g.

    "The climate of Congress is combative and divided".

    Given the above statement about climate, what 'measurement' are you claiming exists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Ergo, there is no temperature increase.
    In an equilibrium, that is true. However, the Sun is hotter than the Earth, correct? How hot would the surface of the Earth if it had no atmosphere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    In an equilibrium, that is true. However, the Sun is hotter than the Earth, correct? How hot would the surface of the Earth if it had no atmosphere?
    Irrelevant questions summarily dismissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Climate has no temperature. Climate has no precipitation. There is no such thing as a global climate.
    It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
    How are the temperatures measured?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Irrelevant questions summarily dismissed.
    I'll answer it for you since you're scared to answer it. The surface of the Earth during day time will be as hot as the moon (hotter than it is now).

    Also, the Earth will be as hot as Venus if the atmosphere was alike.

    See,extra energy is not needed. Just a basic thermodynamics and equilibrium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    "The climate of Congress is combative and divided".

    Given the above statement about climate, what 'measurement' are you claiming exists?
    The climate is the prevailing trend of public opinion or of another aspect of public life. It has no measurement. A climate or debate can be "heated". It doesn't mean the temperature is hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    I juuuuuuuuust explained to you what climate is yet you continue to parrot stupidity.....



    Neither temperature nor precipitation are climate, so your question is irrelevant.

    E.g.

    "The climate of Congress is combative and divided".

    Given the above statement about climate, what 'measurement' are you claiming exists?
    You provided your opinion of climate, nothing more. Stating facts as opinion is the MO of climate change deniers in this discussion.

    "The climate of Congress is combative and divided".

    Combative implies high emotion; probably some anger. With the right equipment, you could measure things like heart rate, respiration and perspiration, all of which increase with anger. You also experience a burst of energy as a result of chemically being released in your brain, which could be measured also.
    "If someone doesn’t value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide that proves they should value evidence."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Yes. Much more intelligent than "LOL." sounds.....
    Pro Tip: it isn't actually. . In fact it's not even a good word game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Yes.
    Well, to YOU, of course. A pile of dog vomit looks like the Encyclopedia Britannica to YOU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    There is no additional energy.
    Therefore, no warming.
    "The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    I'll answer it for you since you're scared to answer it. The surface of the Earth during day time will be as hot as the moon (hotter than it is now).

    Also, the Earth will be as hot as Venus if the atmosphere was alike.

    See,extra energy is not needed. Just a basic thermodynamics and equilibrium.
    The temperature of Earth is unknown. The temperature of the Moon is unknown. The temperature of Venus is unknown. NONE of them can be measured.
    "The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
    "Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
    "Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
    "Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
    "Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
    "no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
    "Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
    "Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMode View Post
    You provided your opinion of climate, nothing more.
    It is not an opinion. It is a definition. I have already provided the eytomology of this word. You just want to ignore English.
    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMode View Post
    Stating facts as opinion is the MO of climate change deniers in this discussion.
    Learn what 'fact' means. Climate cannot change. Learn what 'climate' means.
    Quote Originally Posted by ZenMode View Post
    "The climate of Congress is combative and divided".

    Combative implies high emotion; probably some anger.
    No, it doesn't. It simply means a divided Congress.
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    With the right equipment, you could measure things like heart rate,
    What is the heart rate of Congress?
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    respiration
    What is the respiration rate of Congress?
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    and perspiration,
    What is the perspiration rate of Congress?
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    all of which increase with anger.
    What is the rate of increase with anger? What is the anger rate of Congress?
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    You also experience a burst of energy as a result of chemically being released in your brain, which could be measured also.
    What is the chemical release of Congress?

    Congress is not climate, dumbass. False equivalence fallacy.
    "The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
    "Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
    "Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
    "Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
    "Even after being vaccinated, you shed virus particles." --Jerome
    "no slavery is forcing another into labor" -archives
    "Evs are much safer from fires" -- Nordberg
    "Abortion has killed no one." -- LurchAddams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spodumene View Post
    Pro Tip: it isn't actually. . In fact it's not even a good word game.
    Inversion fallacy.
    "The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
    "Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
    "Abortion is not a moral issue. " --BidenPresident
    "Propaganda can also be factual." --Flash
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    It is not an opinion. It is a definition. I have already provided the eytomology of this word. You just want to ignore English.

    Learn what 'fact' means. Climate cannot change. Learn what 'climate' means.

    No, it doesn't. It simply means a divided Congress.

    What is the heart rate of Congress?

    What is the respiration rate of Congress?

    What is the perspiration rate of Congress?

    What is the rate of increase with anger? What is the anger rate of Congress?

    What is the chemical release of Congress?

    Congress is not climate, dumbass. False equivalence fallacy.
    Sorry, I'm not responding to any more of your questions or claims until you provide evidence/proof for these:

    - climate can't change
    - CO2 can't trap light
    - Temperature can't be measured from a distance (except when it can)
    - the Earth's temperature can't be measured
    - CO2 levels in the atmosphere can't be measured
    - the temperature of Venus is unknown
    - there aren't enough temperature stations
    - temperature stations aren't spaced correctly
    - temperature stations aren't read at the right intervals
    - temperature stations aren't read by the right people
    - all of the experiments showing how CO2 interacts with infrared energy are parlor tricks
    "If someone doesn’t value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide that proves they should value evidence."

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