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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    I bet Herman Cain's family wished he had never gone to that trump rally and gotten Covid-19.
    Excellent contribution....what a nice guy you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    God you are desperate This thread has been dead for 10 months.
    The thread may be dead but ten months ago only 121K people had died from covid. There were still plenty to go under trump's watch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    The thread may be dead but ten months ago only 121K people had died from covid. There were still plenty to go under trump's watch.
    Just think how many would have died in those 10 months if Trump's Operation Warp Speed had not developed 3 vaccines. I'm sure TRUMP'S decisive action saved millions possibly even you.

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    He must have been resurrected and died again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Excellent contribution....what a nice guy you are
    Others not making Cain's mistake will save lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Just think how many would have died in those 10 months if Trump's Operation Warp Speed had not developed 3 vaccines. I'm sure TRUMP'S decisive action saved millions possibly even you.
    The one task in developing and testing the vaccines that trump set himself was to test how well they stopped transmission. trump failed completely at this task.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    The one task in developing and testing the vaccines that trump set himself was to test how well they stopped transmission. trump failed completely at this task.
    Did you get the vaccine? Without President Trump, who knows when it would have been possible......

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Did you get the vaccine? Without President Trump, who knows when it would have been possible......
    I got the first Pfizer shot. The Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine was developed by BioNTech a German company run by Turkish Germans. trump was very unhelpful to them, forcing all inquiries to go through political appointees. Most of trump's political appointees were Creationists, so had a very warped view of science.

    As has been pointed out by other alt right posters, Pfizer's America's employees are mostly Democrats, or at least not willing to support trump. After the stupidity of trump, I cannot blame them.

    But all of trump's harm to the vaccine program would have been forgiven, if only he had delivered the test kits he promised. It will take years to test how well the vaccines test transmission, when we could have gotten it done months ago. Even if trump had not made the promise, there would have been a good chance to get the test kits from someone else.

    So without trump, who knows what could have been possible. But it has to be better than with trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    I got the first Pfizer shot. The Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine was developed by BioNTech a German company run by Turkish Germans. trump was very unhelpful to them, forcing all inquiries to go through political appointees. Most of trump's political appointees were Creationists, so had a very warped view of science.

    As has been pointed out by other alt right posters, Pfizer's America's employees are mostly Democrats, or at least not willing to support trump. After the stupidity of trump, I cannot blame them.

    But all of trump's harm to the vaccine program would have been forgiven, if only he had delivered the test kits he promised. It will take years to test how well the vaccines test transmission, when we could have gotten it done months ago. Even if trump had not made the promise, there would have been a good chance to get the test kits from someone else.

    So without trump, who knows what could have been possible. But it has to be better than with trump.
    Well you got it, though....thanks to Trump....no reason to worry about what "might have been".....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Well you got it, though....thanks to Trump....
    I got it thanks to Muslims from Germany.

    I was promised it by Mnunchin(trump's appointee), but it turns out that was just a lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    I got it thanks to Muslims from Germany.

    I was promised it by Mnunchin(trump's appointee), but it turns out that was just a lie.
    OK....thank the German Muslims then

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    Just think how many would have died in those 10 months if Trump's Operation Warp Speed had not developed 3 vaccines. I'm sure TRUMP'S decisive action saved millions possibly even you.
    You're giving trump way more credit than he deserves. Operation Warp Speed wasn't official until May 2020. The vax was developed quickly in spite of trump, not because of him.

    "After the coronavirus was isolated in late 2019,[57] its genetic sequence was published on 11 January 2020, triggering an urgent international response to prepare for an outbreak and hasten development of a preventive COVID-19 vaccine.[58][59][60] Since early 2020, vaccine development has been expedited via unprecedented collaboration in the multinational pharmaceutical industry and between governments.[61] By June 2020, tens of billions of dollars were invested by corporations, governments, international health organizations, and university research groups to develop dozens of vaccine candidates and prepare for global vaccination programs to immunize against COVID‑19 infection."


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    You're giving trump way more credit than he deserves. Operation Warp Speed wasn't official until May 2020. The vax was developed quickly in spite of trump, not because of him.
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    Sorry but taking Wikipedia's word for anything remotely political is just not on, it gave up pretending to be objective and balanced long ago. OWS was truly a modern miracle and it should acknowledged as such, not denigrated. There is absolutely no way on Earth that Biden would have initiated such a project, to suggest otherwise is denying the obvious truth.


    The Truth about Trump’s Operation Warp Speed


    Millions of people across the United States have already received doses of vaccines against coronavirus — vaccines developed as part of Operation Warp Speed (OWS), the project conceived, initiated, resourced, and largely executed under Trump administration leadership. Daily, millions more join their ranks. But listening to members of the liberal media and the Biden administration, one could be forgiven for not clearly understanding the pivotal role leaders within the Trump administration, along with private-sector partners, played in developing, manufacturing, and delivering over 300 million safe and effective vaccines in less than one year to the American people.

    After President Biden’s address to the nation last week, Nicole Wallace of MSNBC commented that OWS “didn’t do anything to get a needle into the arm” of any American. In February, Vice President Harris commented that the Biden administration was in many ways “starting from scratch.” And, Jeff Zients, from the administration’s COVID-19 task force, commented recently that the Trump administration had “no plan” to vaccinate Americans. The Biden administration’s overall COVID-19 response performance in its first 100 days, averaging over 75,000 cases per day and over 1,700 fatalities per day, has been less effective than the year during which the Trump administration was overseeing the response (~60,000 and ~1,100, per day, respectively). On January 20, 2021, there were approximately 24.5 million total COVID cases and 405,000 fatalities in the U.S. This was one year into the pandemic. In the first 100 days of the Biden administration, we added 7.8 million cases (32.3 million total) and 170,000 fatalities (575,000 total). So much for extinguishing the virus. Also, as of May 1, close to 70 million of the 310 million vaccine doses distributed are sitting idle in U.S. vaccination sites. We were criticized for having less than one-tenth this number of vaccines sitting idle. These are inconvenient facts, so one will not likely hear them from MSNBC or CNN. Clearly, President Biden is learning that governing is more difficult than campaigning.

    Many in the media attribute the success of OWS to some sort of miracle, a deus ex machina introduced to unravel the mysteries of vaccine development and manufacturing. In fact, the success of OWS was a function of exceptional leadership, a deliberate strategy, and exacting execution.

    OWS was conceived in the spring of 2020 by Department of Health and Human Services secretary Alex Azar, a former pharmaceutical company executive who deeply understood the motivations, risk tolerance, and complexities of drug development, manufacturing, and distribution. It was immediately embraced by President Trump, who ensured we had the financial resources, attention, talent, and government support required for success. Shortly thereafter, we added a number of other exceptional leaders: Dr. Moncef Slaoui, the most accomplished vaccine developer of our generation, Generals Perna, Ostrowski, and Sharpsten from the Army Logistics Command, and Carlo de Notaristefani, a distinguished pharmaceutical manufacturing expert, Dr. Francis Collins of the National Institutes of Health, who oversaw the clinical trials, and Jared Kushner as our White House liaison. This country owes the vaccines we have to this team of leaders.

    The OWS strategy required the U.S. government to assume the financial risk for manufacturing the vaccines. Normally, manufacturing vaccines at scale only occurs after its developer receives approval from the FDA. In the middle of a global pandemic, this was unacceptable. So, beginning in the summer of 2020, we financed the manufacturing of up to 3 billion vaccines, many months before any vaccine was granted an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA). When the Biden administration “secures” more doses, it is simply pushing the “reorder button” on options in contracts we established last year. The OWS strategy also involved selecting a small “portfolio” of the very best vaccines from among 114 vaccine candidates. Could the candidate get through phase-three clinical trials quickly enough? Would it be effective in persons over age 65? Could it be manufactured at scale such that we would have tens of millions of doses prior to the first half of 2021? Dr. Slaoui chose six candidates across three technology platforms, five of which have, or will shortly, meet all of these criteria.

    However, simply selecting vaccines was insufficient. Success required leaders such as Dr. Collins, who shepherded multiple clinical trials, composed of tens of thousands of Americans, allowing them to be completed in record time and with sufficient experimental diversity. Because of the disproportionate impact of COVID on the elderly and some minorities, we wanted to ensure the vaccine was valid in these groups. Thus, we aimed for 25 percent participants over age 65, 10 percent black, and 10 percent Hispanic. Carlo de Notaristefani and his teams had to stand up, or expand, 23 separate manufacturing facilities in seven months’ time. This included obtaining equipment, raw materials, and labor. Dr. Bob Kadlec, the assistant secretary for Preparedness and Response, had to secure a billion needles and syringes, as well as tens of millions of vials, and began doing so in March of 2020. We utilized the Defense Production Act 18 times to ensure proper priority was assigned to these vital tasks. When the Biden administration claimed its use of this authority would be something different, it was simply not true. It has only used the DPA once in the first 100 days.

    When the Biden administration asserts we had no plan to vaccinate Americans, it is insulting every career official in the CDC, every governor and mayor of the 64 public-health jurisdictions we devised, and every public-health official at the state, county, and city level in the U.S. In conjunction with these professionals, we developed a national operating plan and 64 micro-plans. Each was reviewed, evaluated, and scored.

    Distribution and administration of vaccines was another area of exceptional execution, for which Generals Perna, Ostrowski, and Sharpsten, along with CDC leaders such as Dr. Anita Patel, organized the very best of the private sector. McKesson, UPS, FedEx, CVS Health, and Walgreens were among our first partners. We eventually enrolled, and electronically linked, over 40,000 pharmacy locations, thousands of Community Health Centers, and thousands of hospitals, all of which are being well-utilized today. We developed Tiberius, the most sophisticated vaccine-tracking system ever used. Before the end of February 2021, only two months into the rollout, nearly every one of America’s 15,000-plus nursing-home residents had had the opportunity to receive two doses of vaccines. UPS and FedEx have maintained a 99.99 percent-plus record of on-time deliveries, to the right destinations, without compromising extraordinarily stringent storage and delivery requirements. On our last day in office alone, the CDC reported over 1.5 million newly vaccinated Americans.

    To be sure, there were uncertainties during the first several weeks of administering vaccines. We were entering the holiday season (the Pfizer and Moderna EUAs were granted on December 14 and 21, respectively). We could not have anticipated that around 30 percent of frontline health-care workers, and around 50 percent of nursing-home employees, would refuse vaccination. But we adapted quickly, and on January 12, Secretary Azar and Dr. Robert Redfield from the CDC announced we would be expanding criteria for eligibility and expanding access sites for vaccine administration.

    Despite the Biden administration’s comments suggesting we “had no plan,” we are flattered the Biden administration has actually embraced nearly 100 percent of the Trump administration’s plan. The only difference is FEMA-led mass-vaccination sites, which have administered less than 2 percent of our vaccines. The Biden folks snub their noses at the Trump dog food at night, but the bowl is always empty in the morning.

    Biden administration personnel have done an outstanding job of fulfilling the OWS mission. We “handed them the baton” and they ran with it. No one is more pleased about this success than President Trump and his OWS team. One has to ask, however, why the Biden folks and the media so vigorously and disingenuously disparage our achievements, while withholding credit to those few leaders who came together under President Trump’s leadership on behalf of the many. This behavior represents the worst of politics, a lack of executive presence, and most important, a missed opportunity to unify Americans. If we cannot celebrate this example of American exceptionalism as a united people, then what can possibly bring us together?

    https://news.yahoo.com/truth-trump-o...103059422.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primavera View Post
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    Sorry but taking Wikipedia's word for anything remotely political is just not on, it gave up pretending to be objective and balanced long ago. OWS was truly a modern miracle and it should acknowledged as such, not denigrated. There is absolutely no way on Earth that Biden would have initiated such a project, to suggest otherwise is denying the obvious truth.


    The Truth about Trump’s Operation Warp Speed


    Millions of people across the United States have already received doses of vaccines against coronavirus — vaccines developed as part of Operation Warp Speed (OWS), the project conceived, initiated, resourced, and largely executed under Trump administration leadership. Daily, millions more join their ranks. But listening to members of the liberal media and the Biden administration, one could be forgiven for not clearly understanding the pivotal role leaders within the Trump administration, along with private-sector partners, played in developing, manufacturing, and delivering over 300 million safe and effective vaccines in less than one year to the American people.

    After President Biden’s address to the nation last week, Nicole Wallace of MSNBC commented that OWS “didn’t do anything to get a needle into the arm” of any American. In February, Vice President Harris commented that the Biden administration was in many ways “starting from scratch.” And, Jeff Zients, from the administration’s COVID-19 task force, commented recently that the Trump administration had “no plan” to vaccinate Americans. The Biden administration’s overall COVID-19 response performance in its first 100 days, averaging over 75,000 cases per day and over 1,700 fatalities per day, has been less effective than the year during which the Trump administration was overseeing the response (~60,000 and ~1,100, per day, respectively). On January 20, 2021, there were approximately 24.5 million total COVID cases and 405,000 fatalities in the U.S. This was one year into the pandemic. In the first 100 days of the Biden administration, we added 7.8 million cases (32.3 million total) and 170,000 fatalities (575,000 total). So much for extinguishing the virus. Also, as of May 1, close to 70 million of the 310 million vaccine doses distributed are sitting idle in U.S. vaccination sites. We were criticized for having less than one-tenth this number of vaccines sitting idle. These are inconvenient facts, so one will not likely hear them from MSNBC or CNN. Clearly, President Biden is learning that governing is more difficult than campaigning.

    Many in the media attribute the success of OWS to some sort of miracle, a deus ex machina introduced to unravel the mysteries of vaccine development and manufacturing. In fact, the success of OWS was a function of exceptional leadership, a deliberate strategy, and exacting execution.

    OWS was conceived in the spring of 2020 by Department of Health and Human Services secretary Alex Azar, a former pharmaceutical company executive who deeply understood the motivations, risk tolerance, and complexities of drug development, manufacturing, and distribution. It was immediately embraced by President Trump, who ensured we had the financial resources, attention, talent, and government support required for success. Shortly thereafter, we added a number of other exceptional leaders: Dr. Moncef Slaoui, the most accomplished vaccine developer of our generation, Generals Perna, Ostrowski, and Sharpsten from the Army Logistics Command, and Carlo de Notaristefani, a distinguished pharmaceutical manufacturing expert, Dr. Francis Collins of the National Institutes of Health, who oversaw the clinical trials, and Jared Kushner as our White House liaison. This country owes the vaccines we have to this team of leaders.

    The OWS strategy required the U.S. government to assume the financial risk for manufacturing the vaccines. Normally, manufacturing vaccines at scale only occurs after its developer receives approval from the FDA. In the middle of a global pandemic, this was unacceptable. So, beginning in the summer of 2020, we financed the manufacturing of up to 3 billion vaccines, many months before any vaccine was granted an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA). When the Biden administration “secures” more doses, it is simply pushing the “reorder button” on options in contracts we established last year. The OWS strategy also involved selecting a small “portfolio” of the very best vaccines from among 114 vaccine candidates. Could the candidate get through phase-three clinical trials quickly enough? Would it be effective in persons over age 65? Could it be manufactured at scale such that we would have tens of millions of doses prior to the first half of 2021? Dr. Slaoui chose six candidates across three technology platforms, five of which have, or will shortly, meet all of these criteria.

    However, simply selecting vaccines was insufficient. Success required leaders such as Dr. Collins, who shepherded multiple clinical trials, composed of tens of thousands of Americans, allowing them to be completed in record time and with sufficient experimental diversity. Because of the disproportionate impact of COVID on the elderly and some minorities, we wanted to ensure the vaccine was valid in these groups. Thus, we aimed for 25 percent participants over age 65, 10 percent black, and 10 percent Hispanic. Carlo de Notaristefani and his teams had to stand up, or expand, 23 separate manufacturing facilities in seven months’ time. This included obtaining equipment, raw materials, and labor. Dr. Bob Kadlec, the assistant secretary for Preparedness and Response, had to secure a billion needles and syringes, as well as tens of millions of vials, and began doing so in March of 2020. We utilized the Defense Production Act 18 times to ensure proper priority was assigned to these vital tasks. When the Biden administration claimed its use of this authority would be something different, it was simply not true. It has only used the DPA once in the first 100 days.

    When the Biden administration asserts we had no plan to vaccinate Americans, it is insulting every career official in the CDC, every governor and mayor of the 64 public-health jurisdictions we devised, and every public-health official at the state, county, and city level in the U.S. In conjunction with these professionals, we developed a national operating plan and 64 micro-plans. Each was reviewed, evaluated, and scored.

    Distribution and administration of vaccines was another area of exceptional execution, for which Generals Perna, Ostrowski, and Sharpsten, along with CDC leaders such as Dr. Anita Patel, organized the very best of the private sector. McKesson, UPS, FedEx, CVS Health, and Walgreens were among our first partners. We eventually enrolled, and electronically linked, over 40,000 pharmacy locations, thousands of Community Health Centers, and thousands of hospitals, all of which are being well-utilized today. We developed Tiberius, the most sophisticated vaccine-tracking system ever used. Before the end of February 2021, only two months into the rollout, nearly every one of America’s 15,000-plus nursing-home residents had had the opportunity to receive two doses of vaccines. UPS and FedEx have maintained a 99.99 percent-plus record of on-time deliveries, to the right destinations, without compromising extraordinarily stringent storage and delivery requirements. On our last day in office alone, the CDC reported over 1.5 million newly vaccinated Americans.

    To be sure, there were uncertainties during the first several weeks of administering vaccines. We were entering the holiday season (the Pfizer and Moderna EUAs were granted on December 14 and 21, respectively). We could not have anticipated that around 30 percent of frontline health-care workers, and around 50 percent of nursing-home employees, would refuse vaccination. But we adapted quickly, and on January 12, Secretary Azar and Dr. Robert Redfield from the CDC announced we would be expanding criteria for eligibility and expanding access sites for vaccine administration.

    Despite the Biden administration’s comments suggesting we “had no plan,” we are flattered the Biden administration has actually embraced nearly 100 percent of the Trump administration’s plan. The only difference is FEMA-led mass-vaccination sites, which have administered less than 2 percent of our vaccines. The Biden folks snub their noses at the Trump dog food at night, but the bowl is always empty in the morning.

    Biden administration personnel have done an outstanding job of fulfilling the OWS mission. We “handed them the baton” and they ran with it. No one is more pleased about this success than President Trump and his OWS team. One has to ask, however, why the Biden folks and the media so vigorously and disingenuously disparage our achievements, while withholding credit to those few leaders who came together under President Trump’s leadership on behalf of the many. This behavior represents the worst of politics, a lack of executive presence, and most important, a missed opportunity to unify Americans. If we cannot celebrate this example of American exceptionalism as a united people, then what can possibly bring us together?

    https://news.yahoo.com/truth-trump-o...103059422.html
    I don't know why you guys continue to criticize Wikipedia just for its very existence. The page I linked to has almost 600! footnotes from science, medical, epidemiological, news and other sites. It's not about some basement dweller typing 24/7 and giving reign to his fantasies.

    Journal of Biomedical Science, New England Journal of Medicine, The Guardian, US National Library of Medicine, Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson, Reuters ad nauseam. Did you look at any of them?

    I stand by my assertion that trump FUBARed everything about Covid-19 and he's not the godsend the RW tries to pretend. He was dragged kicking and screaming into OWS after months of downplaying the severity of the virus.


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