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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Your level of expertise on planetary science, engineering, and astrophysics is close to nil - as is mine - meaning you are not informed enough to have a valid opinion.

    If you supported spending a trillion dollars on the Iraq War Disaster, then you can sit back and keep quite while we spend a few billion on the ISS
    You people who believe that the opinions of only certified experts matter are idiots.....just look at where submission to the experts has gotten America....to almost total collapse from bad quality work.

    To date, the International Space Station has cost as much as $160 billion, with the United States providing the bulk of the money — nearly $100 billion (although it depends how you include the price of the space shuttle program). Russia, Europe, Canada, and Japan chipped in for the rest. It's arguably the most expensive single object ever built.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...t-a-good-idea/

    . The average cost to launch a Space Shuttle is about $450 million per mission.
    https://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy...uttle_faq.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    You people who believe that the opinions of only certified experts matter are idiots.....just look at where submission to the experts has gotten America....to almost total collapse from bad quality work.
    Expertise matters.

    Next time you need a root canal, try asking an accountant to perform it.

    The ISS is a complex piece of technology, and neither you or I are remotely qualified to judge the science and technology associated with the ISS, on an obscure message board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Sounds even more useless than the near Earth orbit space station....I need to hear concrete benefits other that a few people will have a cool time living underwater....will have stories to tell.

    It at least needs to be mobile.
    The computer you are so casually using to bitch about tech was due, in part, due to the Apollo program along with several other spinoffs. That's a concrete benefit now which wasn't seen in 1965. That's the funny thing about R&D, it's like Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. Remember how the microwave oven came to be?

    https://www.npr.org/2019/07/20/74237...-back-on-earth

    https://spinoff.nasa.gov/flyers/apollo.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    The computer you are so casually using to bitch about tech was due, in part, due to the Apollo program along with several other spinoffs. That's a concrete benefit now which wasn't seen in 1965. That's the funny thing about R&D, it's like Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. Remember how the microwave oven came to be?

    https://www.npr.org/2019/07/20/74237...-back-on-earth

    https://spinoff.nasa.gov/flyers/apollo.htm

    I want/need to be hearing what we have gotten for the almost $200 billion we have invested in the ISS, and what exactly we should get for this investment should we do it...as well as how much it should cost, understanding that cost estimates tend to be wildly not correct because our experts tend to suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    I want/need to be hearing what we have gotten for the almost $200 billion we have invested in the ISS, and what exactly we should get for this investment should we do it...as well as how much it should cost, understanding that cost estimates tend to be wildly not correct because our experts tend to suck.
    Dyam! You talk like a 1960s Liberal. Surprising.

    Here ya go, some tech even golf-cheat Trump would appreciate:
    https://spinoff.nasa.gov/flyers/ISSspin.html

    https://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2011/iss_spinoffs.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Dyam! You talk like a 1960s Liberal. Surprising.

    Here ya go, some tech even golf-cheat Trump would appreciate:
    https://spinoff.nasa.gov/flyers/ISSspin.html

    https://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2011/iss_spinoffs.html
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    2) I have been claiming to be a socialist for two decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    How's that working for you?
    I dont understand the question.

    Would you care to use different words?
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    You to can explore the ocean depths, if you have the nerve and the money too?!!

    TRITON submersibles will take you to the deepest part of this planet oceans?!!

    Some of these submersibles can launch from a yacht, other from a research ship if you want to go really deep?!!

    https://tritonsubs.com/

    https://tritonsubs.com/products-services/all-subs/

    Glad to see the Cousteau family is still in ocean exploration?!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    This is very exciting news to me. We know so little about the unexplored oceans.

    https://allthatsinteresting.com/underwater-space-station-proteus


    Yves Behar described the structure as “the ocean’s equivalent to the International Space Station.”
    i'm sorta impressed, but 60 feet isn't that deep. you can dive to about 120 feet. plus the location is tropical, i would be interested in the depths of the pacific ocean, namely the marianna trench. however, it may provide some useful information. thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Well, we got a surprise the other day. Some private aerospace company wants to build a space port here for "vertical launches." We were all excited until we found out WHERE they want to put it. On the lake shore. Carving out a huge swatch of woods for it. About five miles to our south. Activate the NIMBY Squad!
    who owns the land? private or government?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OG Yurt View Post
    i'm sorta impressed, but 60 feet isn't that deep. you can dive to about 120 feet. plus the location is tropical, i would be interested in the depths of the pacific ocean, namely the marianna trench. however, it may provide some useful information. thanks for sharing.
    I hope it leads to exploration of the deeper oceans, yes, like the Marianna trench! Think of what lies there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    I hope it leads to exploration of the deeper oceans, yes, like the Marianna trench! Think of what lies there!
    An interesting point about 60 feet, but the real estate motto, and a basic understanding of underwater depth issues, applies: Location, location, location.

    The facility is set to be built off the coast of Curacao which itself is near a trench up to 6000' deep. http://fishing-app.gpsnauticalcharts...12.165/-68.610

    Like some theories think using the Moon as a launch point to Mars, already being underwater at 60' might be a jumping off point to explore deeper.

    Also note the water clarity where visibility is over 100 feet. Certainly a plus.
    https://www.nydailynews.com/life-sty...ticle-1.344023

    All you have to do is gear up and step off the dock to enjoy great diving any time, day or night. The water is so clear that at 100 feet, you can feel the sun on your back. During a night dive, you can look up and see the moon and stars.


    As the OP link notes: "“Ocean exploration is 1,000 times more important than space exploration for — selfishly — our survival, for our trajectory into the future,” said Cousteau. “It’s our life support system. It is the very reason why we exist in the first place.”"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    I hope it leads to exploration of the deeper oceans, yes, like the Marianna trench! Think of what lies there!
    I hope it is not Godzilla....

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