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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    It's a public -private partnership with Fed inter-agency cooperation that funds expedited R&D
    to prepare for manufacturing . I think it also funds (or protects liability) -not sure on that
    Right, so it wasn't Trump, it was Congress. So Trump is just trying to brand this as his, taking credit for things he had nothing to do with, and actively worked against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    IT"S IN TESTING NOW -the vaccine was developed ( see details above) and as soon as clinical trials are over
    THEN IT GETS MANUFACTURED and distributed.
    Right, but it's not a foregone conclusion that this vaccine will pass the trials, nor did Trump have anything to do with that. But you're trying to give him credit for something he had no part of. Moderna was already developing the vaccine prior to "Warp Speed" being signed in June.

    So Trump is doing what he always does, slapping his branding on something someone else created and built.
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    Here comes the Oktober Surprise of a false vaccine to re-elect the most pointlessly childish and petulant load of shit POTUS of all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    Right, but it's not a foregone conclusion that this vaccine will pass the trials, nor did Trump have anything to do with that. But you're trying to give him credit for something he had no part of. Moderna was already developing the vaccine prior to "Warp Speed" being signed in June.

    So Trump is doing what he always does, slapping his branding on something someone else created and built.
    Trump’s ‘Operation Warp Speed’ Aims to Rush Coronavirus Vaccine
    April 29, 2020
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...avirus-vaccine

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Trump’s ‘Operation Warp Speed’ Aims to Rush Coronavirus Vaccine
    April 29, 2020
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...avirus-vaccine
    Moderna (and several other companies and governments) had already been working on that vaccine before April 29th.

    The CARES ACT, which provided funding for vaccine development, was passed before April 29th, in case you forgot.

    So you're trying to give Trump credit for something he had no part of.

    Like slapping his name on a building he didn't build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Trump’s ‘Operation Warp Speed’ Aims to Rush Coronavirus Vaccine
    April 29, 2020
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...avirus-vaccine
    "Warp Speed" is like someone else hitting a triple, and then Trump comes in as pinch runner while claiming he hit the triple.
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    They haven't done a placebo control trial yet. They haven't done one with elderly yet. Basically they gave it to young healthy people and generated an immune response without killing
    25 year olds. Well, so does the virus itself.... You give the virus to 25 year olds and they won't die and they will have an immune response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    "Warp Speed" is like someone else hitting a triple, and then Trump comes in as pinch runner while claiming he hit the triple.
    Apt. Love to see Trump waddle down the line and do a Pete Rose dive to home plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    They haven't done a placebo control trial yet. They haven't done one with elderly yet. Basically they gave it to young healthy people and generated an immune response without killing
    25 year olds. Well, so does the virus itself.... You give the virus to 25 year olds and they won't die and they will have an immune response.
    You're a fucking imbecile, truly laughable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    The U.S. biotech firm Moderna said Tuesday it would enter the final stage of human trials for its COVID-19 vaccine on July 27, after promising early results were published in an influential journal.
    From my understanding, it has about a 10% chance of success. We have been in the exact same place with the HIV vaccines... and still nothing.

    If it does work, America really does not have the capacity to produce it, but luckily the WHO should distribute it to all its members... So long as some idiot does not take us out of the WHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    From my understanding, it has about a 10% chance of success. We have been in the exact same place with the HIV vaccines... and still nothing.

    If it does work, America really does not have the capacity to produce it, but luckily the WHO should distribute it to all its members... So long as some idiot does not take us out of the WHO.
    Post a link showing a 10% chance of success, Walter.

    The far left loons desperately want this vaccine to fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    The far left loons desperately want this vaccine to fail.
    Actually, we desperately want this vaccine to succeed. President Biden could distribute the vaccine that saves America from the horrors of the trump pandemic.

    The problem is that hoping and wishing does not accomplish anything. Maybe it will work, but we should also be working on other solutions. We desperately need contact tracing. Social distancing, and masks could save lives NOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    I dont see why a COVID vaccine is more difficult to develope then any viral vaccine/
    The neat thing is they used the protein spike (viral shell) to get the exact genome sequence, rather then splice it.
    saved alot of time and is accurate
    I have no idea what that means but it sounds cool.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Don't be a jerk. A vaccine will not even work in the US.
    lol.....


    Them: "We can't open up the economy until we have a vaccine or Trump is defeated"
    US: "We may have a vaccine"
    Them: "A vaccine will never work"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Actually, we desperately want this vaccine to succeed. President Biden could distribute the vaccine that saves America from the horrors of the trump pandemic.

    The problem is that hoping and wishing does not accomplish anything. Maybe it will work, but we should also be working on other solutions. We desperately need contact tracing. Social distancing, and masks could save lives NOW.
    The source of the virus from China is China. They lied about the source and their number of fatalities. They would not share data with our health professionals that might have mitigated their virus from China. They nailed shut the doors of those with the virus from China They did not stop flights out of China and the virus from China spread around the world.

    China must be held accountable for the hundreds of thousands of deaths and the economic loss around the world.

    Count on the far left loon apologists to defend China and falsely blame it on our great president whose closure of flights from China saved countless lives.

    The president is following the advice of the health professionals and the states are opening their economies following the guidelines.

    "President Biden." Lol He said that he is running for the US Senate, Walter.

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