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    Werewolf TRUMP DROPS THE HAMMER ON CCP- pulls hong kong SPECIAL STATUS

    Awwwe, they aint special no more......... .....................

    I am glad he pulled the trigger, but I am not clear what it actually entails??

    Clearly this is gonna cost the gangsters & robbers in the party dearly, if it is actually implemented across the board..

    All special status for their ccp corporations needs to be removed as well-THEY NEED TO PLAY BY THE SAME ACCOUNTING RULES AS EVERYONE ELSE-SAME POSTAGE RULES AS EVERYONE ELSE, etc etc etc-

    Cut the bull shit abou developing nation advantages-almost the biggest economy in the world & they are a developing country-WTF???



    President Donald Trump said he issued an order to end Hong Kong's special status with the US and signed legislation that would sanction Chinese officials responsible for cracking down on political dissent in Hong Kong, the latest escalation in tensions between the world's largest economies.

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    Note everyone agrees of course.. Many have made their bed in china. I'm sure Steve Bannon is laughing his ass off about their pain..



    Like his ongoing trade war, Trump's Hong Kong policy seeks to inflict punishment on China with little concern for its effectiveness or cost to American interests "American interest"~simple code words for wallstreet interest, the same boys that took our jobs to china
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    “Their freedom has been taken away,” Trump said on Tuesday of Hongkongers. “Their rights have been taken away and with it goes Hong Kong, in my opinion, because it will no longer be able to compete with free markets.” He added that he thought “a lot of people will be leaving Hong Kong.”



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    US President Donald Trump signs Hong Kong Autonomy Act, and ends the city’s preferential trade status

    New law is the latest salvo from a united Washington as it retaliates against Beijing for further eroding Hong Kong’s autonomy
    The executive order means ‘Hong Kong will now be treated the same as mainland China’, the US president says

    Owen Churchill in Washington, DC

    Published: 5:46am, 15 Jul, 2020

    US President Donald Trump took two actions against China in response to Beijing’s moves on Hong Kong on Tuesday, signing an executive order ending the city’s preferential trade treatment, and enacting a bill that would require sanctions against foreign individuals and banks for contributing to the erosion of Hong Kong’s autonomy.

    “Hong Kong will now be treated the same as mainland China,” Trump said in a news conference in the Rose Garden at the White House. “No special privileges, no special economic treatment, and no export of sensitive technologies.”

    Trump did not say when the new executive order’s provisions would go into effect, and the text of the directive is yet to be released. The move could open up Hong Kong to the tariffs his administration has slapped on Chinese exports over the course of the trade war that has raged between Washington and Beijing for the past two years.

    The latest salvos in Washington’s retaliation over Beijing’s imposition of a sweeping national security law on the city, the executive order and Trump’s signing of the Hong Kong Autonomy Act
    came shortly before a deadline for the US leader to sign or veto the legislation.


    Introduced in late May, the bill breezed through both chambers of Congress
    in a handful of weeks – a quick turnaround in any congressional session, much less one dominated by coronavirus relief bills and police reform legislation as well as the looming fall elections.
    With the bill having been approved by lawmakers via unanimous consent, a presidential veto would have been met with strong opposition from a Congress that has united around challenging Beijing on its actions, and could have been defeated by a two-thirds majority vote by lawmakers.

    After unveiling his administration’s steps to punish Beijing over Hong Kong, Trump quickly veered the Rose Garden conference into unscripted yet familiar territory.

    Over the course of a 50-minute, winding speech, he bashed his presumed Democratic presidential contender Joe Biden, attacked congressional Democrats, and defended his administration’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic, at one point doubling down on his reservations about widespread testing. “Testing is a good thing but it’s fodder for the fake news to report cases,” he said.

    To date, the coronavirus has killed more than 135,000 people and infected around 3.4 million in the US, now the epicentre of the global pandemic.

    In the few moments he spent endorsing the new Hong Kong-related legislation handed to him by a united Congress, Trump said the law gave his administration “powerful new tools to hold responsible the individuals and the entities involved in extinguishing Hong Kong’s freedom”.

    The act requires “mandatory sanctions” against any foreign individual for “materially contributing” to the violation of China’s commitments to Hong Kong under the Sino-British Joint Declaration and the Basic Law, the city’s mini-constitution. Setting the terms of Hong Kong’s handover from British to Chinese rule in 1997, the Joint Declaration prescribed that the city would enjoy a “high degree of autonomy” until at least 2047.

    Critics of Beijing, including US lawmakers, say that timeline has effectively been brought forward 27 years by China’s unilateral imposition of the national security law, specifics of which were publicised only after its implementation in late June.
    The law criminalises a wide range of behaviour under four categories of subversion, secession, terrorism and collusion
    and allows Beijing to extradite suspects to the mainland in certain cases. The law is also extraterritorial, covering alleged crimes committed outside the city.

    “Their freedom has been taken away,” Trump said on Tuesday of Hongkongers. “Their rights have been taken away and with it goes Hong Kong, in my opinion, because it will no longer be able to compete with free markets.” He added that he thought “a lot of people will be leaving Hong Kong.”


    Asked by a reporter whether he had plans to speak with Chinese President Xi Jinping in the near future, Trump said: “No I don’t. I have no plan to speak to him.”

    Even before Trump had concluded his address, the Biden campaign responded with a statement accusing him of trying to “rewrite his miserable history as president of caving to President Xi and the Chinese government at every turn.”

    “But try as he may,” the statement continued, “Trump can’t hide from a record of weakness and bad deals that consistently put China first and America last.”

    Democratic Senator Chris Van Hollen, who introduced the Hong Kong Autonomy Act alongside Republican Senator Pat Toomey, called on the President “to spend more time holding China accountable and less time spewing untruths about [former Vice President] Biden”.

    Introduced in response to the national security law, Van Hollen’s bill also directs the US administration to levy sanctions against foreign financial institutions – including subsidiaries of US firms – that knowingly conduct business with designated individuals.

    People targeted under the law would be barred from entering the US and lose control over any US-based assets. Sanctioned banks would also lose control of US-held assets, but would also be subjected to other punitive measures, including being prohibited from taking loans from any US institution and carrying out transactions that fall under American jurisdiction.


    The bill’s rapid passage through Congress was not without hitches. One Republican senator who co-sponsored the bill halted a vote at the request of the Trump administration, to allow a number of technical corrections that would give the Treasury Department a greater say in the designation of sanction targets.

    And despite Senate approval in mid-June, senators had to vote on the bill a second time after its passage in the House of Representatives because of a procedural requirement that revenue-generating bills originate in the House.

    In a statement issued later on Tuesday, the White House said that it was treating “as advisory and non-binding” certain provisions in the act related to the waiving or termination of sanctions. Language in the bill approved by Congress gave lawmakers the ability to override sanction waivers by passing “disapproval resolutions”.

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    XO or legislation? the article isn't clear

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    XO or legislation? the article isn't clear
    "Trump did not say when the new executive order’s provisions would go into effect, and the text of the directive is yet to be released. The move could open up Hong Kong to the tariffs his administration has slapped on Chinese exports over the course of the trade war that has raged between Washington and Beijing for the past two years."
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    Which one, I posted several?? Or stretch's??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Hong Kong / Politics
    ‘Exodus’ from Hong Kong? Those who fear national security law mull best offers from welcoming countries
    Sharp rise in inquiries to migration consultants, with nurses among those most keen to leave
    Hongkongers take wait-and-see attitude as Britain, Australia open doors to more migrants

    Chris Lau
    Published: 8:30am, 12 Jul, 2020

    For several weeks, veteran emigration consultant Willis Fu Yiu-wai found himself busier than usual, answering queries from Hongkongers anxious to leave the city.
    They were worried about Beijing’s new national security law for Hong Kong, which came into force on June 30.
    In recent days, however, Fu’s clients appeared in less of a rush to go. They had not changed their minds about leaving, but now wanted to wait and see which country would offer Hongkongers the best immigration deal.
    “They said they didn’t want to proceed yet,” he said.

    What you should know about China's new national security law for Hong Kong

    Many decided to hold on after Britain announced this month that it would offer a new path to citizenship to nearly 3 million Hongkongers eligible for British National (Overseas) Passports. These people, born before Britain returned Hong Kong to China in 1997, will have the right to remain in the country for five years, after which they can apply for permanent residence and, eventually, citizenship.
    Since then, Australia also announced plans to welcome Hongkongers. Now those considering emigration are anticipating that other countries will open their doors too.

    “It has upended the whole market,” said Jason Yu Wai-lung, chief immigration consultant at Smart2Go, another firm helping people who want to emigrate.

    The national security law, which targets acts of secession, subversion, terrorism and collusion with foreign forces, has sparked concerns over sweeping powers handed to police and the possible erosion of human rights in Hong Kong.

    After Beijing first announced in May that it would tailor-make a law for Hong Kong, inquiries shot up at Fu’s firm, Goldmax Immigration. At one point, it received 60 inquiry forms in a day, six times the usual.
    Fu said many of his clients were nurses from “almost every hospital in Hong Kong” and mainly in their 20s to 40s.
    He said the British proposal for those with BN(O) passports offered a breakthrough deal for skilled Hongkongers who do not have a lot of money. Up till now, there have been high barriers to moving to Britain, such as unique professional skills, high proficiency in the English language, or hefty investments of at least 2 million pounds (HK$19.5 million).
    About 350,000 Hongkongers already hold BN(O) passports, and more are eligible to apply for it.

    Protester worries about reprisal

    Salesman Leo Chan*, 26, said he would be ready to leave as soon as the British government laid down its plan. The university-educated Hongkonger said he feared for himself as he waved the Union flag while taking part in anti-government protests last year. The act is now outlawed.
    Although the law has no retroactive effect, Chan said he was still worried. Before Britain announced its offer, he was prepared to apply for any working holiday visa he could get, to some countries which allow visitors to stay and work for up to a year or two.
    Now he has set his sights on the new route to Britain. “It seems easier, and brings a better chance of settling there,” he said.

    David Lee* fears he might run into trouble with the new law, having worked as a journalist in Hong Kong. He and his wife, who holds a British passport, have also decided to leave.
    Britain seems a natural choice as his wife has family there, but the couple are waiting to see if the United States might have an immigration offer for Hongkongers, as they prefer the latter.
    In June, Britain began briefing members of the Five Eyes intelligence alliance – the US, Australia, Canada and New Zealand – about a possible exodus from Hong Kong.

    Last Thursday, Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison announced that his administration would grant more than 10,000 Hongkongers on student and temporary visas a pathway to permanent residence by allowing them to stay in the country for five years. He said Australia was ready to welcome Hongkongers with skills and businesses and looking to start a new life elsewhere.
    According to 2018 data on Australia’s Department of Education website, the country granted more than 11,000 visas for Hong Kong students. The Australian offer will also apply to future visa holders and students from Hong Kong.

    Beijing has criticised Britain and Australia for their offers of haven to Hongkongers wishing to flee the national security law.

    Will they leave? ‘Too early to say’

    Sociology professor Eric Fong Wai-ching, who specialises in migration at the University of Hong Kong, said it was one thing for people to say they intend to leave, and quite another for them to actually uproot and go. He felt it was too early to conclude that there would be an exodus from Hong Kong.
    “Many are still at the planning stage,” he said, although he pointed to an uptick of applications for “certificates of no criminal conviction”, a document granted by police to those applying for a wide range of visas, including for education and emigration.
    According to police, the number of certificates issued rose to 2,782 in June, from 1,711 in the previous month. Last year 33,252 were issued, a sharp rise from around 20,000 in previous years. Last year’s increase came in the wake of months of anti-government protests.

    But another indicator of people leaving Hong Kong for good – the number of tax clearance filings to the Inland Revenue – has not changed significantly.
    The tax authority processed 2,500 such filings a month in May and June this year, its spokesman said. There were on average 2,400 monthly cases in the financial years of 2019-20 and 2018-19.

    For some Hongkongers, Taiwan is also a popular emigration destination due to its proximity and similar culture, according Yu from Smart2Go, who specialises in helping people move there. One attraction is the relatively low investment required to migrate there – about HK$1.5 million.
    In the first five months of this year, Taiwan granted permanent residence to 558 Hongkongers, following on 1,474 over the whole of last year and just below 1,100 each year between 2016 and 2018.

    Taiwan announced last month that apart from providing humanitarian support to Hongkongers feeling anxious over the national security law, it would also offer immigration assistance to those keen to invest there or who possess special talents.
    Emigration consultant Yu said inquiries about Taiwan leapt tenfold during the worst of the Covid-19 pandemic, mostly from retirees, although about 20 per cent were younger people.
    There was a change after Britain announced its plan for those with BN(O) passports. “People under 40 years old who made inquiries have completely disappeared,” he said.
    Only older people were still considering moving to Taiwan now, he said, drawn mainly by the island’s lower living costs. The new national security law has pushed some to make up their minds sooner.
    “Some of them now want to put their plans into action, and bring forward their retirement,” Yu said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Meaningless if we don't know how many of them were shooting back at the cops, or were armed and resisting arrest.
    The Trump Doctiine - replace real wars with economic wars

    Hopefully, this massive economic pressure on China's new middle and merchant classes will cause an internal revolt like we talked about.
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    As a consequence Trumpf took away British freedom to decide about Waiwai (of whatever it's called - Hwaiwei, I later gather) and Johnson kissed his arse. Heil Freedom!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    As a consequence Trumpf took away British freedom to decide about Waiwai (of whatever it's called) and Johnson kissed his arse. Heil Freedom!
    Tend your goats that are roaming your filthy streets, America hating cabron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    The Trump Doctiine - replace real wars with economic wars

    Hopefully, this massive economic pressure on China's new middle and merchant classes will cause an internal revolt like we talked about.
    Yes. HK was a cash cow for China...always was. Me thinks that Xi shot himself in the foot by not waiting the agreed upon full 50 years to 2047.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    As a consequence Trumpf took away British freedom to decide about Waiwai (of whatever it's called) and Johnson kissed his arse. Heil Freedom!
    only the Welsh have no freedom......
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    only the Welsh have no freedom......
    Yeah, but they have Tom Jones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    The Trump Doctiine - replace real wars with economic wars

    Hopefully, this massive economic pressure on China's new middle and merchant classes will cause an internal revolt like we talked about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    only the Welsh have no freedom......
    Wales actually has plenty of freedom. Pendryn is just a fake Welshman. Lying about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    The Trump Doctiine - replace real wars with economic wars

    Hopefully, this massive economic pressure on China's new middle and merchant classes will cause an internal revolt like we talked about.
    Right, the Chinese are going to take up arms and overthrow the Gov’t, good luck on that one

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