What tRump's "swampy" Stone deal tells us.

**Tacomaman** · 07-13-2020, 02:45 PM

1. tRump simply replaced the status DC "swamp" with his own personal "swamp" that he can better exploit.

2. tRump knows that Stone is guilty otherwise tRump would have pardoned Stone.

**Nordberg** · 07-13-2020, 03:51 PM

Stone and the others were pardoned to protect Trump. Stone could have connected him directly with the Russian hacking.

**T. A. Gardner** · 07-13-2020, 04:06 PM

Stone wasn't pardoned. His sentence was commuted. He is still guilty and convicted of his crimes, he just won't be serving any prison time. Given his age and such, that's probably a good thing for taxpayers who would otherwise have to pick up the tab for his medical care. On top of that, the federal prison system has a mechanism in place for inmates of advanced age, like Stone, to be released on humanitarian reasons of infirmity and advanced age.

https://www.pagepate.com/what-is-the...au-of-prisons/

So, the Stone commutation is a NOTHING BURGER!

**Nordberg** · 07-13-2020, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner

Stone wasn't pardoned. His sentence was commuted. He is still guilty and convicted of his crimes, he just won't be serving any prison time. Given his age and such, that's probably a good thing for taxpayers who would otherwise have to pick up the tab for his medical care. On top of that, the federal prison system has a mechanism in place for inmates of advanced age, like Stone, to be released on humanitarian reasons of infirmity and advanced age.

https://www.pagepate.com/what-is-the...au-of-prisons/

So, the Stone commutation is a NOTHING BURGER!

The commutation also took away the court fine. If the money means something to you, so should that. Nothing burger?; WTF a damn crook was saved from paying for his treasonous crimes by a president who is implicated in some of the same crimes.

**T. A. Gardner** · 07-13-2020, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Nordberg

The commutation also took away the court fine. If the money means something to you, so should that. Nothing burger?; WTF a damn crook was saved from paying for his treasonous crimes by a president who is implicated in some of the same crimes.

Got news for you... Almost nobody that goes to prison ends up paying all the fines and court costs anyway. It's like a gratuitous beatdown after a smackdown.

**signalmankenneth** · 07-13-2020, 04:41 PM

**Nordberg** · 07-13-2020, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner

Got news for you... Almost nobody that goes to prison ends up paying all the fines and court costs anyway. It's like a gratuitous beatdown after a smackdown.

How is that significant in this case? Trump erased all those too. Trump probably included Stones parking fees. He did it because Stone can nail him. Stone was terrified of going to jail. Trump probably figured in a week or so, Stone would have opened up. He had to stop that from happening. It was all about Daffy. Trump does not care about anyone e
Stone hinted to trump that he figured he was going to get pressured and might talk. Trump got him out quickly.