John Wayne Exhibition Removed

[cancel2 2022]

You don't get to speak for everyone. You only get to speak for you. You don't like John Wayne. That much is obvious. Your own personal opinion.

He likes to mince with his fellow metrosexuals!

[Cypress]

You don't get to speak for everyone. You only get to speak for you. You don't like John Wayne. That much is obvious. Your own personal opinion.

I literally cannot think of a single person in my life in the last 30 years - buddies, girlfriends, colleagues, dates, relatives - who said to me, "We should watch a John Wayne movie tonight!"

[Micawber]

I literally cannot think of a single person in my life in the last 30 years - buddies, girlfriends, colleagues, dates, relatives - who said to me, "We should watch a John Wayne movie tonight!"

I agree. It's hard to watch one dimensional westerns. Give me the Spaghetti variety or Hud with complex scoundrels who do good sometimes.
Takes a lot of good acting, gore and smoking and drinking to cover up a ham handed morality tale. John Wayne is just a country strong rugged ugly mug.
His movies time has simply passed. I can't watch them. Except I do like True Grit, even his old version is nice.

[Cypress]

I agree. It's hard to watch one dimensional westerns. Give me the Spaghetti variety or Hud with complex scoundrels who do good sometimes.
Takes a lot of good acting, gore and smoking and drinking to cover up a ham handed morality tale. John Wayne is just a country strong rugged ugly mug.
His movies time has simply passed. I can't watch them. Except I do like True Grit, even his old version is nice.

True Grit was okay. I have no desire to ever see it again.

As for the golden age of Hollywood, I will still be up for watching the Bogart and Ingrid Bergman classics, Casablanca, African Queen, Treasure of Sierra Madre.

As for the good guys-bad guys westerns, I prefer the Japanese take on that theme. Kurasawa's excellent Samurai movies come to mind. Lots of good Asian martial arts films on the whole good guys vs. bad guys theme

[Micawber]

True Grit was okay. I have no desire to ever see it again.

As for the golden age of Hollywood, I will still be up for watching the Bogart and Ingrid Bergman classics, Casablanca, African Queen, Treasure of Sierra Madre.

As for the good guys-bad guys westerns, I prefer the Japanese take on that theme. Kurasawa's excellent Samurai movies come to mind. Lots of good Asian martial arts films on the whole good guys vs. bad guys theme

Yes I'm aware of Sergio Leone's grifting.... I still think Leone value added greatly, with the score, the gravitas of Clint,
Lee Van Cleef and Eli Wallach. Maybe it's not the cookie cutout thing, cuz a very much liked IpMan version one despite
his (Donny Yen?) utter perfection as a human and maximal skill.

[Micawber]

Sedotta e Abbandonata

If you are keen on the foreign varietal, try this Italian farce... ^^^ Fucking hilarious

[Into the Night]

I literally cannot think of a single person in my life in the last 30 years - buddies, girlfriends, colleagues, dates, relatives - who said to me, "We should watch a John Wayne movie tonight!"

Like I said. You need to get out more.

[Cypress]

I literally cannot think of a single person in my life in the last 30 years - buddies, girlfriends, colleagues, dates, relatives - who said to me, "We should watch a John Wayne movie tonight!"

Like I said. You need to get out more.

Here is data.

Polling indicates Wayne's (Marion Morrison) popularity is waning and plummeting. Marion is still modestly popular among baby boomers. But his legacy and popularity plummets among GenXers and Millennials. I mean it completely craters. Those are irreversible tends. In a generation or two Marion Morrison will be on par with trivia questions. Prominent monuments to him at USC or anywhere else will look out of place.

https://today.yougov.com/topics/inte...tor/John_Wayne

The most telling thing about this poll is the correlation between John Wayne fans and other cultural icons they have an affinity for -- Wayne fans are also fans of Bonanza, Roy Rogers, Andy Griffith Show, and Charlie Daniels Band.

Wayne fans are dinosaurs, and that tells you right there that Marion Morrison's legacy is headed for oblivion.

[Into the Night]

Here is data.

Polling indicates Wayne's (Marion Morrison) popularity is waning and plummeting. Marion is still modestly popular among baby boomers. But his legacy and popularity plummets among GenXers and Millennials. I mean it completely craters. Those are irreversible tends. In a generation or two Marion Morrison will be on par with trivia questions. Prominent monuments to him at USC or anywhere else will look out of place.

https://today.yougov.com/topics/inte...tor/John_Wayne

The most telling thing about this poll is the correlation between John Wayne fans and other cultural icons they have an affinity for -- Wayne fans are also fans of Bonanza, Roy Rogers, Andy Griffith Show, and Charlie Daniels Band.

Wayne fans are dinosaurs, and that tells you right there that Marion Morrison's legacy is headed for oblivion.

Polls don't mean anything. You need to get out more.

[Doc Dutch]

Delusional disorder.

[Doc Dutch]

Before John Wayne there was Tom Mix. Bet you never heard of him. He was the actor that got Wayne started in the business by the way. In his time (1905 to 1940 roughly) he was one of the biggest names in movies. Celebrity is fleeting. It always has been. Today's celebrity is tomorrow's forgotten idiot. Nothing new there.

Clint Eastwood is still popular. Maybe Orange County will rename the airport for him just to really stick it to John Wayne's legacy.

[Cypress]

Before John Wayne there was Tom Mix. Bet you never heard of him. He was the actor that got Wayne started in the business by the way. In his time (1905 to 1940 roughly) he was one of the biggest names in movies. Celebrity is fleeting. It always has been. Today's celebrity is tomorrow's forgotten idiot. Nothing new there.

Never heard of Tom Mix. That speaks to the issue of deluding one's self into believing that pop culture individuals are destined for history and enshrinement as ever lasting icons.

Tom Hanks is a good actor and has been in better movies than John Wayne. I actually think his film legacy is stronger than Wayne's. But in 50 years, monuments of Tom Hanks would look out of place and mildly ridiculous.

There are only a few dozen American writers, poets, film makers who really have ground breaking and lasting impact on art and culture. If somebody is going to pay good money for a statue and display it in a public space, they probably should think about the legacy and lasting contributions of the individual they are publicly enshrining.

[T. A. Gardner]

There is one memorial to Tom Mix where he was killed in a car crash. It's a forlorn stretch of rural highway in Arizona.

[Doc Dutch]

There is one memorial to Tom Mix where he was killed in a car crash. It's a forlorn stretch of rural highway in Arizona.

Thanks. Similar deal for James Dean: http://www.weirdca.com/location.php?location=45

[Cypress]

There is one memorial to Tom Mix where he was killed in a car crash. It's a forlorn stretch of rural highway in Arizona.

That is perfectly fine.

It is a modest memorial to the untimely and unfortunate death of a prominent actor.

I think there is a modest memorial for James Dean where he was killed on his motorcycle on California Highway 46.

The mistake Marion Morrison fans make with John Wayne is elevating him to a historic figure with a consequential and lasting legacy.

He was a mediocre actor who appeared in numerous B-list movies.

My theory for why Marion even found the purchase that he did, is there was a cottage industry dedicated to making Wayne a proxy in the Cold War and Culture wars of the 20 th century. Marion provided the caricature, the avatar of the moral fortitude, courage, and independent spirit that America wished to project about herself.