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    Leaving aside the fact that fascism is almost exclusively a far-right philosophy that exalts the nation over the individual and minorities, and is exemplified by autocracy and dictatorship, his charge is a signal that his campaign for re-election will be another torrent of divisiveness.

    Trump and most of his supporters, and Republican candidates in general, are fully aware that their support mostly comes from what we might charitably call a remnant “Silent Majority” that is white, older, male, and fearful that their political and cultural power is threatened by the demographic shift toward people of color and generally more liberal youth. A blitz of propaganda from the right that couches the conflation of “cancel culture,” Confederate statue removal, and those Trump called “the radical left, the Marxists, the anarchists, the agitators, the looters” will seek to drive Republican turnout.


    The philosopher Susan Neiman herself has admitted that her own understanding of terror and suppression waged against Black Americans after the Civil War was sadly incomplete until recently, and that many Americans are ignorant of its cause. She has written about our own lack of knowledge in her book “Learning from the Germans” in which she compares the proactive actions Germany has taken to confront, atone for, and make at least partial restitution for the horror of the Holocaust, with our spotty record of education and understanding of our history.

    Confronting the need to remove these statues from places of honor should also force us to confront our long history of racism and suppression of Black and native peoples, and reflect on the best way to educate ourselves in the full, proud, but frequently flawed history of the USA.





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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Leaving aside the fact that fascism is almost exclusively a far-right philosophy that exalts the nation over the individual and minorities, and is exemplified by autocracy and dictatorship, his charge is a signal that his campaign for re-election will be another torrent of divisiveness.

    Trump and most of his supporters, and Republican candidates in general, are fully aware that their support mostly comes from what we might charitably call a remnant “Silent Majority” that is white, older, male, and fearful that their political and cultural power is threatened by the demographic shift toward people of color and generally more liberal youth. A blitz of propaganda from the right that couches the conflation of “cancel culture,” Confederate statue removal, and those Trump called “the radical left, the Marxists, the anarchists, the agitators, the looters” will seek to drive Republican turnout.


    The philosopher Susan Neiman herself has admitted that her own understanding of terror and suppression waged against Black Americans after the Civil War was sadly incomplete until recently, and that many Americans are ignorant of its cause. She has written about our own lack of knowledge in her book “Learning from the Germans” in which she compares the proactive actions Germany has taken to confront, atone for, and make at least partial restitution for the horror of the Holocaust, with our spotty record of education and understanding of our history.

    Confronting the need to remove these statues from places of honor should also force us to confront our long history of racism and suppression of Black and native peoples, and reflect on the best way to educate ourselves in the full, proud, but frequently flawed history of the USA.





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    sorry for your ignorance but in this country fascism is left wing and libertarian and anarchy is right wing,,,

    but I do understand your confusion cause its all you have to defend the far left democrats that are worse than any fascist thats ever lived,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by blades View Post
    sorry for your ignorance but in this country fascism is left wing and libertarian and anarchy is right wing,,,

    but I do understand your confusion cause its all you have to defend the far left democrats that are worse than any fascist thats ever lived,,,
    ^^
    prime example of the uneducated white male
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    ^^
    prime example of the uneducated white male
    duhh Trump is great...maga...duhhhh

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    The cry of the dying uneducated demographic -------------the radical left, the Marxists, the anarchists, the agitators, the looters,
    blm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    ^^
    prime example of the uneducated white male
    yes you are,,,but dont dwell on it a lot of people make the same mistakes,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by blades View Post
    yes you are,,,but dont dwell on it a lot of people make the same mistakes,,,
    You know nothing about history or politics. Fascism is a right wing movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    You know nothing about history or politics. Fascism is a right wing movement.
    in europe it is,,,but in this country its libertarian to anarchy,,,at least thats what the founders used as a political scale when writing the constitution,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by blades View Post
    in europe it is,,,but in this country its libertarian to anarchy,,,at least thats what the founders used as a political scale when writing the constitution,,,
    Huh? Where did "founders" talk about fascism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Huh? Where did "founders" talk about fascism?
    I'm talking about the scale they used and fascism was on the left of that scale,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by blades View Post
    I'm talking about the scale they used and fascism was on the left of that scale,,,
    no idea what you're talking about

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    no idea what you're talking about
    understandable with the lies being taught in our schools and spoken on the MSM,,,


    our founders worked on a scale that put total government on the left and no government on the right, first they tried the articles of confederation that was close to anarchy and when that didnt work they came back and wrote the constitution after studying all the former governments they could,,,

    its all in the federalist papers,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by blades View Post
    understandable with the lies being taught in our schools and spoken on the MSM,,,


    our founders worked on a scale that put total government on the left and no government on the right, first they tried the articles of confederation that was close to anarchy and when that didnt work they came back and wrote the constitution after studying all the former governments they could,,,

    its all in the federalist papers,,,
    I studied the Federalists papers. Care to cite something that discusses fascism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blades View Post
    sorry for your ignorance but in this country fascism is left wing and libertarian and anarchy is right wing,,,

    but I do understand your confusion cause its all you have to defend the far left democrats that are worse than any fascist thats ever lived,,,
    “Definition of fascism - a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition“

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

    Given what has to be the simplest understanding of the term, pretty difficult to see how that defines left wing liberalism

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    I studied the Federalists papers. Care to cite something that discusses fascism?
    He’s Highly unlikely to find anything:

    Robert Paxton, a professor emeritus of social science at Columbia University in New York who is widely considered the father of fascism studies, defined fascism as "a form of political practice distinctive to the 20th century that arouses popular enthusiasm by sophisticated propaganda techniques for an anti-liberal, anti-socialist, violently exclusionary, expansionist nationalist agenda."
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.liv...2-fascism.html

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