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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump has pardoned or commuted people he knows ,and who showed loyalty.He is using the powers for his own ends. https://www.npr.org/2020/07/12/89007...s-scholars-say Trump is not using it as it was established, but Trump being Trump, he will take advantage of anything to help himself.
    What crimes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    If there is one thing Democrats have taught us it is history in this country is meaningless to them. You fail here. Go sit in the corner.
    Spot on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Prove that they are? What corruption? After almost four years of this delusional bullshit, the Mueller report and efforts to impeach, you dumbasses still think you can make these stupid false assertions withg ZERI facts.

    Tell me snowflakeBYsnowflake; what laws were broken that led to Roger Stones investigation and confiscation of his personal property? Be specific.
    #sperging

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    The sob that tried to sell a senate seat was a fuckin criminal w/out a doubt, just like your mango messiah.......... There is no reason on earth or hell for pardoning that sob, none........ He could pardon jack the ripper & you would praise him..
    WTF are you bloviating about you triggered leftist dumb fuck? Is that what Stone was charged with? LINK asswhipe.

    Stone was convicted of one count of obstructing an official proceeding, five counts of making false statements to Congress, and one count of witness tampering during an investigation based on a FALSE narrative you clueless dimwitted hack.

    Do facts mean nothing to you morons on the left? My God; three and a half years of this bullshit and you morons are still chanting "impeach."
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    More lies; I don't think you can post without lying and looking stupid snowflakeBYsnowflake. I have ZERO remorse for my vote. In fact, I am going to enjoy casting my vote for Trump once again so I can watch you America hating hacks cry for another four years.
    Real Americans aren't Fascist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    #sperging
    #Deflecting

    #lying

    #stupid
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Real Americans aren't Fascist.
    You don't even comprehend the meaning of that word you dimwitted wonder dunce. Run along; life is too short for low IQ trolls.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    curious which sob you are ranting about?
    Is Stone like Jack the Ripper?
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    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    fraud vitiates all that it touches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Obama pardoned lots of people who he did not know, but were sentenced to very long terms for weed. The pardoning power is supposed to be righting wrongs. Trump has pardoned or commuted people he knows ,and who showed loyalty.He is using the powers for his own ends. https://www.npr.org/2020/07/12/89007...s-scholars-say Trump is not using it as it was established, but Trump being Trump, he will take advantage of anything to help himself.
    I believe he will remit the tax liability of all his companies before he walks out the door.

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    The problem is other presidents understood the damage they could do to the country and the constitution by misusing the powers for self-benefit. The house and senate are in a quandary now. They realize how badly powers can be abused. The founders thought we would vote for honorable men. Trump was not expected. So do we see Daffy as an aberration, or do we rewrite parts of the Constitution to prevent such blatant abuse by others like him? If we take Trump out in cuffs, the repercussions would not be so bad. If Trump gets away with his sell dealing, we could have even more trouble in the future. We could get a guy like Trump in, who is smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    We could get a guy like Trump in, who is smart.
    You mean Nixon? lol

    Trump's get of jail free card throughout his term has been the fealty of his adoring base
    more than than his willingness to disregard presidential mores or exploit loopholes, IMO. Or the latter was
    procured/insured by the former. It has always relied on them and the cowardly
    Rs in Congress who are essentially hostages to his base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    huh?
    what a steaming pile of weird word associations
    Word associations my ass.

    Trump has caused major damage just for the office of the presidency!

    You don't take a Hemi challenger, redline the tach up to 12,000 RPMs before changing from 1st to 2nd, take it out on it's first trip and run it 160 MPH. You don't take a Fender Twin and turn it up all the way up to 10. You don't need a fully automatic AR-45 just to go Deer Hunting. Just because Bruce Lee was a Black Belt to the highest degree, does not mean he should kill someone with a single blow just because he didn't like something someone said to him. Just because a policeman has a gun, doesn't mean he needs to shoot someone who is running away from him. These are the kinds of things that TRUMPTARDS SEEM TO NOT UNDERSTAND. These are the kinds of things that keep getting Trump into trouble. These are the reasons why Trump will be voted out of office.

    My point, just because the office of the president has more power than any other position in the Federal Government- YOU DON'T HAVE TO ABUSE THOSE POWERS JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE THERE.

    Trump has recklessly abused every special power of the office, and challenged the Constitution, violated the Constitution, and used loopholes in the Constitution to further abuse his power with every bit of Brute force, pushing his hateful agenda over the edge, just to intentionally piss off 2/3rds of the population who would never support reckless idiots like him, while providing cheap entertainment for his Trumptards.

    So just as there were a Post Nixon-Era set of changes that happened after our last crooked president abused the office, Once again WE WILL HAVE SOME POST TRUMP-ERA CHANGES!

    NOW SPIN IT BOY ALL YOU LIKE- BUT I KNOW THE REALITY OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN NOW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Word associations my ass.

    Trump has caused major damage just for the office of the presidency!

    You don't take a Hemi challenger, redline the tach up to 12,000 RPMs before changing from 1st to 2nd, take it out on it's first trip and run it 160 MPH. You don't take a Fender Twin and turn it up all the way up to 10. You don't need a fully automatic AR-45 just to go Deer Hunting. Just because Bruce Lee was a Black Belt to the highest degree, does not mean he should kill someone with a single blow just because he didn't like something someone said to him. Just because a policeman has a gun, doesn't mean he needs to shoot someone who is running away from him. These are the kinds of things that TRUMPTARDS SEEM TO NOT UNDERSTAND. These are the kinds of things that keep getting Trump into trouble. These are the reasons why Trump will be voted out of office.

    My point, just because the office of the president has more power than any other position in the Federal Government- YOU DON'T HAVE TO ABUSE THOSE POWERS JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE THERE.

    Trump has recklessly abused every special power of the office, and challenged the Constitution, violated the Constitution, and used loopholes in the Constitution to further abuse his power with every bit of Brute force, pushed his agenda over the edge, just to intentionally piss off 2/3rds of the population who do not reckless idiots like him, while providing cheap entertainment for his Trumptards.

    So just as there were a Post Nixon-Era set of changes that happened after our last crooked president abused the office, Once again WE WILL HAVE SOME POST TRUMP-ERA CHANGES!

    NOW SPIN IT BOY ALL YOU LIKE- BUT I KNOW THE REALITY OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN NOW.
    what?? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    what?? lol
    Drink more bleach- That'll work!

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