Reply With QuoteYes, he is.Originally Posted by dukkha
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"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
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Yes, he is.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Cypress,
He's gonna pull the plug.
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You want a clear case of corruption in a Presidential pardon? This is THE textbook case of all time: Bill Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sns-c...sis-story.html
https://www.npr.org/2016/11/01/50029...n-of-marc-rich
https://nypost.com/2016/01/17/after-...s-off-friends/
This was a solid quid pro quo to let a filthy rich White collar Wall Street criminal walk by a cabal of Democrats who got paid hundreds of thousands to pardon him. It wasn't a sentence commutation like Stone (WHO WASN'T PARDONED contrary to claims by the TDS crowd) but a full pardon before he was even tried as Rich was hiding out in Switzerland to avoid extradition.
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Astraea
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Yes, that’s nice, but that was Clinton, he’s no longer President, the current disaster is Trump.
christiefan915 (07-12-2020), Trumpet (07-11-2020)
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The OP of this thread stated:
I demonstrated quite clearly that the Stone commutation is neither unprecedented or a historic case of corruption by comparing it to what is possibly the worst case of a Presidential pardon in the history of the US. That puts the Trump action in perspective to a degree as basically a nothing burger except to the deranged TDS crowd.Unprecedented, historic corruption: an American president commutes the sentence of a person convicted by a jury of lying to shield that very president.
dukkha (07-11-2020), Sailor (07-11-2020), Truth Detector (07-12-2020)
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello T. A. Gardner,
I put a thanks to this post but then had to remove it upon reading the last sentence.
You had something going until then.
It's not like corruption was nonexistent before DT. He just took it to a whole new level.
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Phantasmal (07-11-2020), Trumpet (07-11-2020)
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So stupid it is!
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Actually, I think we are at the point that we should just answer with a false claim of our own. This is a boxing match, and one of the boxers just kicked the other one in the nuts. The referee said 'all good'. Time to learn to kick.
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The country voted for a mobster because it was offered Billary as an alternative. Bernie would have been a good president. Trump has been a distraction, an amusement, a fool and now a cautionary tale . What a shame that the country, in all probablity, now has to stomach four years of Biden. Bernie would have been a good president.
" First they came for the journalists...
We don't know what happened after that . "
Maria Ressa.
Mjölner
stupid man baby, the investigation was about Trump..shut the fuck up.
Most corrupt, incompetent President ever.
It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.
moon (07-11-2020)
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And this Country has never been better off !
Concart (07-11-2020)
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Yes that stunk to high hell, as the criminal was not deserving in any way, but you avoid an important distinction,
there is no evidence Rich was convicted for obstructing justice in an investigation of the person doing the pardoning.
By your metric, nobody should be pardoned, as they are ALL doing time and guilty of felonies.
Sorry, unconvincing digression. I shot your red herring with my speargun of pure concentrated reason!
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No one believes this. Not even you.
christiefan915 (07-11-2020), Phantasmal (07-11-2020)
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On feeling the bern, I agree. The problem is electability. Bernie has some baggage feminists don't like and he is so
liberal some moderates might be scared. And Biden has the AA vote more so than Bern due to his faithful 2nd in command to Obama.
Biden basically can't lose.
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