Unprecedented, historic corruption:

[Concart]

Yes that stunk to high hell, as the criminal was not deserving in any way, but you avoid an important distinction,
there is no evidence Rich was convicted for obstructing justice in an investigation of the person doing the pardoning.

By your metric, nobody should be pardoned, as they are ALL doing time and guilty of felonies.

Sorry, unconvincing digression. I shot your red herring with my speargun of pure concentrated reason!

I gave that lecture to my dog last night. She didn't understand a word. Neither will this clown. Some in the audience appreciate it. Of course that's the distinction. Trump is pardoning people for not because he knows them, but because THEY know him. And they know everything that goes along with that. This is the least surprising thing Trump has done. There was never any question he would pardon Stone, Flynn, and anyone else who followed the code. Note that Michael Cohen remains in prison. This was Covid related? I guess Trump has tens of thousands of commutations to get cracking on.

[christiefan915]

You want a clear case of corruption in a Presidential pardon? This is THE textbook case of all time: Bill Clinton's pardon of Marc Rich.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sns-c...sis-story.html

https://www.npr.org/2016/11/01/50029...n-of-marc-rich

https://nypost.com/2016/01/17/after-...s-off-friends/

This was a solid quid pro quo to let a filthy rich White collar Wall Street criminal walk by a cabal of Democrats who got paid hundreds of thousands to pardon him. It wasn't a sentence commutation like Stone (WHO WASN'T PARDONED contrary to claims by the TDS crowd) but a full pardon before he was even tried as Rich was hiding out in Switzerland to avoid extradition.

Whataboutism.

[Jarod]

The country voted for a mobster because it was offered Billary as an alternative. Bernie would have been a good president. Trump has been a distraction, an amusement, a fool and now a cautionary tale . What a shame that the country, in all probablity, now has to stomach four years of Biden. Bernie would have been a good president.

Agree

[Concart]

On feeling the bern, I agree. The problem is electability. Bernie has some baggage feminists don't like and he is so
liberal some moderates might be scared. And Biden has the AA vote more so than Bern due to his faithful 2nd in command to Obama.

Biden basically can't lose.

And gun control advocates. Bernie also has a problem of all talk and no action. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy, but he is Ben & Jerry's Coconuts For Caramel to Bidens Vanilla.

[Phantasmal]

The OP of this thread stated:



I demonstrated quite clearly that the Stone commutation is neither unprecedented or a historic case of corruption by comparing it to what is possibly the worst case of a Presidential pardon in the history of the US. That puts the Trump action in perspective to a degree as basically a nothing burger except to the deranged TDS crowd.

Justification to distract, the old adage, two wrongs doan’ t make a right applies. Your assumption that we approved of the Rich pardon makes you believe we only condemn Trump because of our TDS. Wrong assumption.

[Jarod]

And this Country has never been better off !

Wow, Maybe one of the most outlandish claims I’ve seen yet.

[Phantasmal]

And gun control advocates. Bernie also has a problem of all talk and no action. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy, but he is Ben & Jerry's Coconuts For Caramel to Bidens Vanilla.

Bernie served pie in the sky, I like pie, but we don’t need pie right now. We need meat and vegetables.

[Jarod]

Bernie served pie in the sky, I like pie, but we don’t need pie right now. We need meat and vegetables.

We need moderate Biden now... no more wild swings for a few years.

[Loving91390]

No one believes this. Not even you.

Lowest unemployment in decades...

[Rune]

And this Country has never been better off !

Idiot; we were better off during the Dust Bowl.

[Rune]

Lowest unemployment in decades...

Outright lie, record unemployment.

[Loving91390]

Outright lie, record unemployment.

Not for Blacks and Mexicans .....

[Loving91390]

Idiot; we were better off during the Dust Bowl.

Maybe you were .... not the rest of us .

[Jarod]

"I think the prosecution [of Roger Stone] was righteous and I think the sentence that the judge ultimately gave was fair."
-- Attorney General Bill Barr, July 8, 2020

[Rune]

Not for Blacks and Mexicans .....

Unbelievable

https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cpsee_e16.htm

Note that Blacks of prime working age are at 27% unemployed.
Are you fucking retarded?