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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Biden: Day one, get back into the WHO.
    What a tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    How do you read that into what he said?
    Easily; but you have to have a reading comprehension higher than second grade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    He said Biden will stop people from dying from COVID lol.
    These are the dumbest people on the planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Not really. Moderate centrism is not where our nation is.
    There is nothing moderate about radical mobs burning and looting cities and tearing down monuments they didn't pay for or choose to put up. There is nothing moderate about the Democratic Party of the Jackass and their radical desire to take over half the economy and turn this nation into a third world shit hole like Venezuela.

    If you had a brain, you could comprehend the OBVIOUS. But you're an idiot who will vote for a geriatric with dementia this fall.
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    Hello Darth,

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    He said Biden will stop people from dying from COVID lol.
    Quote please.
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    Hello Cinnabar,

    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    Not good enough and all because we have so-called representatives who are beholden to their donors. I don't get so easily pacified or placated and settle for corruption, regardless of how moderate. And who told you there will be a Public Option...wishful thinking?
    Biden has said it.

    And baby steps. We have to drag the reluctant ones along.

    After the public option puts the greedy insurance industry out of business we'll have our government run plan - for the good of all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Not really. Moderate centrism is not where our nation is.
    2019:

    Liberal: 24%
    Conservative: 37%
    Moderate:35%

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/275792/...ally-2019.aspx

    My point was while Democrats should be able to beat Trump in 2020, they are in danger of losing that advantage because of Biden and now the violence and looting and pulling down monuments which is causing a backlash. An article today talked about the lack of enthusiasm for Biden by Hispanics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    2019:

    Liberal: 24%
    Conservative: 37%
    Moderate:35%

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/275792/...ally-2019.aspx

    My point was while Democrats should be able to beat Trump in 2020, they are in danger of losing that advantage because of Biden and now the violence and looting and pulling down monuments which is causing a backlash. An article today talked about the lack of enthusiasm for Biden by Hispanics.
    Don't agree at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Don't agree at all.
    You think the violent mobs and pulling down monuments is gaining support for Democrats?

    The 7 million third party votes in 2016 were not happy with Clinton or Trump. I don't think violence is going to attract a majority of those third party voters. Legally choosing to remove some monuments is one thing but talking about removing Washington or Jefferson monuments is not supported and many things people see as trivial symbolism such as changing the names of military bases goes too far for many people. It is not that they support monuments or base names, but they don't like being told they have to change because somebody is offended.

    Do you also disagree with the Gallup Poll showing moderate centrism is exactly where the nation is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    You think the violent mobs and pulling down monuments is gaining support for Democrats?

    The 7 million third party votes in 2016 were not happy with Clinton or Trump. I don't think violence is going to attract a majority of those third party voters. Legally choosing to remove some monuments is one thing but talking about removing Washington or Jefferson monuments is not supported and many things people see as trivial symbolism such as changing the names of military bases goes too far for many people. It is not that they support monuments or base names, but they don't like being told they have to change because somebody is offended.

    Do you also disagree with the Gallup Poll showing moderate centrism is exactly where the nation is?
    The "violent mobs" were demanding justice and many states changed the way they police. Most Americans are sympathetic.

    Trump is a fascist and hardly representing the temperament of the people as "moderate centrism."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Absolutely.
    Well that's a good thing for public relations and it certainly will not interfere with the agenda of Biden’s donors now will it? But if he ever dares to step on the toes of their profit margins in favor of the people's needs, they will smack him back into yesterday. And that is how much Biden gives a crap about you and yours and me and mine and representative of who and what really runs this town and for whose benefit.

    Joe Biden says he plans to deal with the US health care crisis by passing a public health insurance option. But his campaign is being funded by the same health companies that killed it when he was vice president. Something has to give — and it probably won't be the corporate donors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post

    Trump is a fascist...

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Don't agree at all.
    He’s right.

    Biden is going to need the working class vote and the lawlessness that’s been allowed to go on by Democrats isn’t the way to appeal to the working class.

    The parallels between now and the late 60’s is striking. Lots of racial unrest [it was a tad more justified then]; Robert Kennedy was one of the leaders in the democrat primaries until he was assassinated. MLK was shot in April of ‘68. Anti-war protests were going on on college campuses and some of them were even shot and killed at Kent State.

    Maybe this isn’t the most tumultuous time in recent history after all.

    But because of all the unrest and the fact Nixon ran on law and order he defeated Hubert Humphrey in November of 1968.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    The "violent mobs" were demanding justice and many states changed the way they police. Most Americans are sympathetic.

    Trump is a fascist and hardly representing the temperament of the people as "moderate centrism."
    Americans are sympathetic about the issue of police misconduct. Peaceful protesters were demanding justice, not the violence and looting; besides, because you think their cause is just does not mean most Americans did not oppose the violence and recoiled from that aspect of the demonstrations.

    Calling someone a fascist is just hyperbole and does not address the question. If Biden and the Democrats are moving to the left and the country is 72% moderate and conservative, that takes away voters needed to defeat Trump. Despite public dislike he might be viewed as a safer alternative for most of the moderate voters.

    You are trying to defend the liberal positions while I am only talking about public opinion and reactions to events.

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