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    This is the correct measure for comparing states.



    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...s-us-by-state/

    Florida is at 19 per 100,000 WAY below New York or New Jersey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    This is the correct measure for comparing states.



    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...s-us-by-state/

    Florida is at 19 per 100,000 WAY below New York or New Jersey.
    Basically four [strongly democrat] states jacked-up the whole country’s data or we’d be looking a lot better globally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Basically four [strongly democrat] states jacked-up the whole country’s data or we’d be looking a lot better globally.
    Yes. Good point. Ashamedly I am a resident of one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    This is the correct measure for comparing states.



    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...s-us-by-state/

    Florida is at 19 per 100,000 WAY below New York or New Jersey.
    Nope. that is accumulated deaths, not the present growth. The red states are cranking up the cases and deaths. Now Mexico joined Canada with not allowing diseased Americans across the borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Nope. that is accumulated deaths, not the present growth. The red states are cranking up the cases and deaths. Now Mexico joined Canada with not allowing diseased Americans across the borders.
    Did you click the link Nordberg? Of course not. Just felt the need to talk out your ass again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Nope. that is accumulated deaths, not the present growth. The red states are cranking up the cases and deaths. Now Mexico joined Canada with not allowing diseased Americans across the borders.
    And Florida to date is so far below New York, New jersey, even Illinois, that the growth rate will have to be far higher than it is for them to catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    He has some serious mental disorder and substance abuse issues. And several socks as well. He and the socks are best left on ignore. None of them bring anything to the table that you'd want to consider, let alone eat. lol
    The ailments are my suspicions too. Has he admitted to any socks in particular?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    This is going to really hurt the U.S. economically compared to the rest of the world. Remember after WWII how we were ascendant because most of the competition was in ruins? Our competitors have a huge edge on us now because they took necessary measures and did what needed to be done. We're the one in ruins.

    You can thank the "stable genius millionaire businessman" for that, and his slavering (dying) horde of sycophantic morons.
    The US will still have all of it's people and infracture After-Trump (AT) as it did Before Trump (BT). The US certainly took a much harsher hit because of Trump than other nations.

    OTOH, this is the funny part, Trump cost himself a third of his $3.1B fortune. No wonder he's shitting his pants so much lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    The ailments are my suspicions too. Has he admitted to any socks in particular?
    I don't know. I put him on ignore a few days ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    And Florida to date is so far below New York, New jersey, even Illinois, that the growth rate will have to be far higher than it is for them to catch up.
    Roughly 40% of COVID deaths have occurred in the nursing home population.

    Which is kind of remarkable, actually. But all anyone needs to do is *vigorously watch* the nursing homes and they can knock the legs out from under COVID death numbers.

    It’s that simple. And yours truly knew this on March 16th 2020. The day I penned the infamous ‘61’ thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    The US will still have all of it's people and infracture After-Trump (AT) as it did Before Trump (BT). The US certainly took a much harsher hit because of Trump than other nations.

    OTOH, this is the funny part, Trump cost himself a third of his $3.1B fortune. No wonder he's shitting his pants so much lately.
    I would dearly love to read your source for this delicious info, if you don't mind. I'm pretty sure that is true given that most of the business is parked in the hospitality sector. I mostly want to savor the numbers.
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    Why is this thread still going? Is this still being "debated"?

    This thread is one of the most epic "didn't age well" fails I've ever seen on a message board. It was insanely premature, and virtually everything that happened afterward made it look silly.

    FL is THE "please America, don't do it this way" cautionary tale. They blew it, and became the new COVID epicenter. These things are factual - not opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    FL is THE "please America, don't do it this way" cautionary tale.
    With false, inflated totals and information in this country from our CDC.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    With false, inflated totals and information in this country from our CDC.
    The totals are actually low, in all probability. The spread is undeniable.

    FL was the "Fox News over CDC" example. Let's see how it goes w/out the real science. They blew it.

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    How are cases reported?

    We have three levels of case definition: suspected, probable and confirmed cases. What is measured and reported by governments and international organizations?

    International organizations – namely the WHO and European CDC – report case figures submitted by national governments. Wherever possible they aim to report confirmed cases, for two key reasons:

    1. They have a higher degree of certainty because they have laboratory confirmation;

    2. They held to provide standardised comparisons between countries.

    However, international bodies can only provide figures as submitted by national governments and reporting institutions. Countries can define slightly different criteria for how cases are defined and reported.4 Some countries have, over the course of the outbreak, changed their reporting methodologies to also include probable cases.

    One example of this is the United States. Until 14th April the US CDC provided daily reports on the number of confirmed cases. However, as of 14th April, it now provides a single figure of cases: the sum of confirmed and probable.

    Suspected case figures are usually not reported. The European CDC notes that suspected cases should not be reported at the European level (although countries may record this information for national records) but are used to understand who should be tested for the disease.
    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cas...cases-reported

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    Even your heroes at the NYT provide the disclaimer now....................

    In data for the United States, The Times is now including cases and deaths that have been identified by public health officials as probable coronavirus patients. Some states and counties only report figures in which a coronavirus infection was confirmed through testing. Because confirmed cases are widely considered to be an undercount of the true toll, some state and local governments have started identifying probable cases and deaths using criteria that were developed by states and the federal government.

    Confirmed cases and deaths are counts of individuals whose coronavirus infections were confirmed by a laboratory test. Probable cases and deaths count individuals who did not have a confirmed test but were evaluated using criteria developed by national and local governments. Some governments are reporting only confirmed cases, while others are reporting both confirmed and probable numbers. And there is also another set of governments that are reporting the two types of numbers combined without providing a way to separate the confirmed from the probable. The Times is now using the total of confirmed and probable counts when they are available individually or combined. Otherwise only the confirmed count will be shown.
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...es.html#states

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    So, if you don't like the ECDC who have stated the guidelines or
    the left-wing NYT for confirming that those data methodology guidelines are correct......just what data are do you follow? Twitter & FB????
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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