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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    youtube.com/watch?v=fLMNkzvae4M

    There's a 50 minute video if you're interested.
    I'll check it out, but the fact remains, Cruz is not a mainstream preacher with any significant number of followers. I was raised Catholic, and have been attending Protestant churches for decades, and have never encountered a single believer who favored a theocracy. As has already been demonstrated by you and others, libs exaggerate about this subject (I'm trying to be kind).
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    I'll check it out, but the fact remains, Cruz is not a mainstream preacher with any significant number of followers. I was raised Catholic, and have been attending Protestant churches for decades, and have never encountered a single believer who favored a theocracy. As has already been demonstrated by you and others, libs exaggerate about this subject (I'm trying to be kind).
    I was raised in a Fundamentalist family and graduated from Jerry Falwell's Liberty University. So I have an unique perspective on it. No exaggeration about it.

    And the funny thing? The right-wing tend to exaggerate the "dangers" of "Marxism", "Communism" and "Socialism" coming to America.

    See the irony?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    I was raised in a Fundamentalist family and graduated from Jerry Falwell's Liberty University. So I have an unique perspective on it. No exaggeration about it.

    And the funny thing? The right-wing tend to exaggerate the "dangers" of "Marxism", "Communism" and "Socialism" coming to America.

    See the irony?
    Actually, if you really graduated from Liberty University, you aren't just exaggerating, you're straight up lying. Liberty doesn't advocate for theocracy in any way, shape, or form.

    I've never even encountered any fundamentalists who advocate for theocracy.

    No irony, history proves our position on Marxism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Actually, if you really graduated from Liberty University, you aren't just exaggerating, you're straight up lying. Liberty doesn't advocate for theocracy in any way, shape, or form.

    I've never even encountered any fundamentalists who advocate for theocracy.

    No irony, history proves our position on Marxism.
    So you're saying that I lied about listening to Jerry Falwell preaching? We were required to go to his church every Sunday.

    Yes the history shows the dangers of Communism. What does that have to do with the right-wing exaggeration of the left wanting it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    So you're saying that I lied about listening to Jerry Falwell preaching? We were required to go to his church every Sunday.

    Yes the history shows the dangers of Communism. What does that have to do with the right-wing exaggeration of the left wanting it?
    Yes, you're lying, or still exaggerating. Go ahead and post a sermon of Falwell calling for an American theocracy. You can't.

    If history demonstrates the dangers, how are we exaggerating?
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Yes, you're lying, or still exaggerating. Go ahead and post a sermon of Falwell calling for an American theocracy. You can't.

    If history demonstrates the dangers, how are we exaggerating?
    Okay I am lying.

    Anyway, history doesn't prove that "the left" is pushing for Communism. You're lying or exaggerating about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Okay I am lying.
    It should be easy to demonstrate that Falwell was an advocate for an American theocracy. There must be hundreds, if not thousands of his sermons posted online. Or couldn't you just link to Liberty University's "about" page, where it must certainly list American theocracy as part of Falwell's mission?

    Anyway, history doesn't prove that "the left" is pushing for Communism. You're lying or exaggerating about that.
    Actually, history does prove it. The policies being pushed by the left are often the prelude to authoritarian rule. But you already knew that. So again, you lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    It should be easy to demonstrate that Falwell was an advocate for an American theocracy. There must be hundreds, if not thousands of his sermons posted online. Or couldn't you just link to Liberty University's "about" page, where it must certainly list American theocracy as part of Falwell's mission?



    Actually, history does prove it. The policies being pushed by the left are often the prelude to authoritarian rule. But you already knew that. So again, you lie.
    By that logic, history proves that the right is pushing for Fascism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    It should be easy to demonstrate that Falwell was an advocate for an American theocracy. There must be hundreds, if not thousands of his sermons posted online. Or couldn't you just link to Liberty University's "about" page, where it must certainly list American theocracy as part of Falwell's mission?



    Actually, history does prove it. The policies being pushed by the left are often the prelude to authoritarian rule. But you already knew that. So again, you lie.
    Authoritarian rule, so long as it is God's authority and God's rule is a good thing. God, of course, is author of all existence, all fleeting, temporal nations, therefore must either conform to the authorship of their Lord, or be destroyed.

    "Freedom" is so often perverted and bastardized with those of no morality and virtue; an atheist, for example lusts after the "freedom" to endulge in sexual wickedness such as rape, child molestation, sexual acts with animals, and things of that nature.

    So no, separation of "church and state" is a myth and a falsehood - church and state should be one, so that virtue is imposed on those wicked individuals who without it would be akin to feral beasts and animals.

    The reality is only those who fear things like "theocracy" do so because they are wicked, weak, and diseased - they don't like having to be "told" that rape is immoral, that sex with children is immoral, not simply another "lifestyle choice", or "personal preference".

    This is why they fear an enlightened theocracy - because they are evil and wish to live akin to a beast rather than a man and woman; the virtuous have no reason to "fear" enlightened, theocratic rule, because they are of a higher nature.

    So no, if "America" doesn't adhere to the authoritarian rule of "God", then it deserves to be actively subverted and destroyed by any means necessary, much akin to the fall of Rome, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, as does it heathen and temporal "constitution" which can easily be immolated in Hellfire like the worthless and decrepit ed piece of paper it is; unlike God which is eternal, the constitution will be nothing more than yet another forgotten piece of paper like the "Constitutions" of so many other fallen empires, Rome's or otherwise.

    So no, I say God DAMN America, Britain, Europe and the rest of the rottenness of worldly temporal kingdoms to hell where it and its degenerates, pornographers, pedophiles, and other miscreants belong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusA View Post
    Authoritarian rule, so long as it is God's authority and God's rule is a good thing. God, of course, is author of all existence, all fleeting, temporal nations, therefore must either conform to the authorship of their Lord, or be destroyed.

    "Freedom" is so often perverted and bastardized with those of no morality and virtue; an atheist, for example lusts after the "freedom" to endulge in sexual wickedness such as rape, child molestation, sexual acts with animals, and things of that nature.

    So no, separation of "church and state" is a myth and a falsehood - church and state should be one, so that virtue is imposed on those wicked individuals who without it would be akin to feral beasts and animals.

    The reality is only those who fear things like "theocracy" do so because they are wicked, weak, and diseased - they don't like having to be "told" that rape is immoral, that sex with children is immoral, not simply another "lifestyle choice", or "personal preference".

    This is why they fear an enlightened theocracy - because they are evil and wish to live akin to a beast rather than a man and woman; the virtuous have no reason to "fear" enlightened, theocratic rule, because they are of a higher nature.

    So no, if "America" doesn't adhere to the authoritarian rule of "God", then it deserves to be actively subverted and destroyed by any means necessary, much akin to the fall of Rome, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, as does it heathen and temporal "constitution" which can easily be immolated in Hellfire like the worthless and decrepit ed piece of paper it is; unlike God which is eternal, the constitution will be nothing more than yet another forgotten piece of paper like the "Constitutions" of so many other fallen empires, Rome's or otherwise.

    So no, I say God DAMN America, Britain, Europe and the rest of the rottenness of worldly temporal kingdoms to hell where it and its degenerates, pornographers, pedophiles, and other miscreants belong.
    No, authoritarian rule is NEVER a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    No, authoritarian rule is NEVER a good thing.
    Ah, but to rule over the wicked, the inferior, the leftist, the lost - those whom without the hand of an enlightened shepherd would be lost in the dark akin to sheep - that is the righteous and altruistic thing to do.

    By virtue of its own bestialness, inferiority, and ferality, the left-wing degenerate, the atheist, the heathen cannot be trusted to govern itself; much as a animal cannot, and that is all that said people are and can justify identifying with by the virtue of their own inferior views.

    The do not posess the enlightenment, the virtue, the truth, the ideas to appreciate the higher human and Godly notions such as "freedom", much how one who is barely literate could never appreciate or be informed into higher literature, theology, philosophy, and thing that belong in the Heavens, and naturally only the godly, the virtuous, the higher could appreciate to begin with.

    ...as opposed the the feral things of the earth, such as masturbation, gluttony, porn addiction, materialism, which is all that such a feral and miseducated creature could be expected to know of.

    So no, to appoint freedom to the atheist, the heathen, the mouth-breather, the degenerate, the vile, the worldly, the materialistic, the sex and porn addicted, the sodomist - would be like handing the keys to a Ferrari to a 5 year old child.

    Authortarian rule, is therefore naturally fitting and becoming of said individuals; they should not be allowed the same luxuries and freedoms of righteous men and women, nor the pretense of being able to spread dangerous and subversive views under mythos such as "frees peach", since all they would have to "speak" or "say" would be more akin to the gruntings and groanings of a feral animal to begin with; not anything one of right worldview, right virtues, right ideals, and so forth would appreciate.

    So no, I recommend allowing Constitutional or other "rights" ONLY for those with membership in the national, right-wing party and who pass a litmus test for virtue; the rest should actively be denied rights, supressed, and treated as rightfully lesser unless they change, they abandon their aberrant leftist beliefs, degeneracies, and other associated ills and become comparatively enlightened, loyal to right-wing state, to nation, church, God, philosophy, and so on.

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