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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven VanderMolen View Post
    It's HARD to believe some people DO think like that. I believe in God, and pray several times a day. But if atheist parents are treating their children right, loving them, and providing them with a good home, the children CAN'T be taken from them. This would be illegal, and could NOT be done.
    It would be illegal under our current laws, but laws can be changed. And even if it should not be done, it can be done.

    Obviously, after they get done with government confiscation of children of atheists, they will move on to the Jews, liberals, moderates, and everyone else who is not in the Alt Right. If we allow them to start, there will be no end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    It would be illegal under our current laws, but laws can be changed. And even if it should not be done, it can be done.

    Obviously, after they get done with government confiscation of children of atheists, they will move on to the Jews, liberals, moderates, and everyone else who is not in the Alt Right. If we allow them to start, there will be no end.
    It can be done through Domestic Relations. They've taken kids from a decent parent over false
    allegations in messy divorce cases, for one. They can make up shit on you and you're screwed.

    Yeah, kinda like gun control.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusA View Post
    I'm tempted to argue that, yes, it would be in the vested interest of the state to ban atheists from procreating, as well as to confiscate the children from atheist homes, and redistribute them to homes, such as Christian homes, grounded in some measure of morality or virtue.

    An atheist, by mere virtue of it's own inferiority cannot be trusted around children, let alone allowed to have children of its own; for example, to an atheist, rape, murder, child molestations are not evils or moral ills, they are just alternate 'lifestyle preferences', or perhaps even a good thing.

    So why on earth would we allow those to have children who can't even morally object to raping and harming children without stealing and appropriating Christian and "religious" morality?

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    So sorry atheists, ultimately your children are not yours anyway, they are first and foremost the children of God Almighty. And it is therefore the natural right and duty of a God-fearing state to remove them from you, and educate them in virtue, Christianity, and morality, as opposed to degeneracy, atheism, and vice and those ills which can lead a soul in the direction of hellfire. To allow an atheist, pagan, heathen, or other Godless ilk in the company of children is a rather heinous sin which should not be allowed unchecked.
    This post looks like satire, but if it's not, then I will reply by stating that I'm an atheist and I don't condone murder or rape or any of the other acts you mention. In fact, I argue that we atheist are morally superior to religious people, because when we do good, we don't expect a heavenly reward. We don't expect any reward. And I would also argue that, if the only thing keeping you from murder and rape is the fear of a vengeful deity, then you have some serious issues.

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    Most people recognize and do the right thing. Religions claim it is because of them and their terrifying punishments. It is not. Are religious people claiming they would commit lots of crimes if they were not religious? Then that is revealing about them. Prisons are full of religious people with prayer meetings.I wish religion made people better. I do not see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusA View Post
    I'm tempted to argue that, yes, it would be in the vested interest of the state to ban atheists from procreating, as well as to confiscate the children from atheist homes, and redistribute them to homes, such as Christian homes, grounded in some measure of morality or virtue.

    An atheist, by mere virtue of it's own inferiority cannot be trusted around children, let alone allowed to have children of its own; for example, to an atheist, rape, murder, child molestations are not evils or moral ills, they are just alternate 'lifestyle preferences', or perhaps even a good thing.

    So why on earth would we allow those to have children who can't even morally object to raping and harming children without stealing and appropriating Christian and "religious" morality?

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    So sorry atheists, ultimately your children are not yours anyway, they are first and foremost the children of God Almighty. And it is therefore the natural right and duty of a God-fearing state to remove them from you, and educate them in virtue, Christianity, and morality, as opposed to degeneracy, atheism, and vice and those ills which can lead a soul in the direction of hellfire. To allow an atheist, pagan, heathen, or other Godless ilk in the company of children is a rather heinous sin which should not be allowed unchecked.
    Seriously? You want to give the state the power to take your children? How about no.
    Every life matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Seriously? You want to give the state the power to take your children? How about no.
    Not the state, but the religious state. He is arguing for a theocracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael_Panetta View Post
    This post looks like satire, but if it's not, then I will reply by stating that I'm an atheist and I don't condone murder or rape or any of the other acts you mention. In fact, I argue that we atheist are morally superior to religious people, because when we do good, we don't expect a heavenly reward. We don't expect any reward. And I would also argue that, if the only thing keeping you from murder and rape is the fear of a vengeful deity, then you have some serious issues.
    This guy has taken on a Nazi/White Supremacist persona to troll on this site. He isn't even very good at hiding it. The pond scum of the internet.

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    The state should seek atheist homes for children. They can learn how to think for themselves instead of being taught what to think. Then when a kid is old enough, he can make his own decision.
    We all know religions thrive by pounding kids with religious training from beginning through home and school. All religions use that cruel and scary method. They know kids are mentally and psychologically dependent on adults and prone to absorbing and believing the doctrine thrust on them. It is cruelty. The terror of hell is real to kids. It is mean to teach them that made up shit is real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Not the state, but the religious state. He is arguing for a theocracy.
    Most American Christians, myself included, want nothing to do with a theocracy. It's not even a part of Christian theology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    The state should seek atheist homes for children. They can learn how to think for themselves instead of being taught what to think. Then when a kid is old enough, he can make his own decision.
    We all know religions thrive by pounding kids with religious training from beginning through home and school. All religions use that cruel and scary method. They know kids are mentally and psychologically dependent on adults and prone to absorbing and believing the doctrine thrust on them. It is cruelty. The terror of hell is real to kids. It is mean to teach them that made up shit is real.

    is pedophilia wrong?
    morality is a set of beliefs, attitudes, and behaviors that facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships.



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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Most American Christians, myself included, want nothing to do with a theocracy. It's not even a part of Christian theology.
    Most? I do not agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    is pedophilia wrong?
    Is gang rape? How about robbery?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Is gang rape? How about robbery?
    all are wrong. what's your take?
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    I humbly pray to our lord jesus christ and daddy god the father to send cosmic love rays into nordbergs heart and elevate his lost and fearful inner child to a vessel able to react to and pay forwards your love for all humanity. amen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Most? I do not agree.
    Give me an example of ANY mainstream, respected, widely supported Christian leader, spokesperson, organization, politician, or theologian calling for an American theocracy.
    Every life matters

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