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    WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled Thursday cleared the way for prosecutors in New York to see President Trump’s financial records, a stunning defeat for Mr. Trump but a decision that probably means the records will be shielded from public scrutiny until after the election, perhaps indefinitely.

    In a separate decision, the court ruled that Congress could not, at least for now, see the same records. The vote in both cases was 7 to 2.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/09/u...gtype=Homepage

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    Supreme Court says Manhattan prosecutor may see Trump’s financial records

    The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a New York prosecutor is entitled to see President Trump’s private and business financial records, ending an intense legal battle waged by the president to keep them secret.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...dc8_story.html

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    The court said Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr. had the authority to subpoena the records from Trump’s private accounting firm. Trump had claimed an immunity from criminal investigations while in office.

    Read the Supreme Court’s opinion: Trump v. Vance

    Vance is investigating whether the Trump Organization falsified business records to conceal hush payments to two women, including pornographic film actress Stormy Daniels, who claimed they had sex with Trump before he took office. Trump has denied those claims.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...dc8_story.html

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    Barr and Trump are finding the president is not above the law. That has been their claim. Even righty justices had to decide according to the law. Except for Alito and Thomas. I would love to see the dissenting opinion. You know Clarence won't be writing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Barr and Trump are finding the president is not above the law. That has been their claim. Even righty justices had to decide according to the law. Except for Alito and Thomas. I would love to see the dissenting opinion. You know Clarence won't be writing it.
    Thomas is just a right winger ideologue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Thomas is just a right winger ideologue.
    He and his wife are big in real far crazy right-wing groups. That should cause him to be removed. Ginni Thomas has supported deep state right-wing groups and Clarence has even spoken to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    He and his wife are big in real far crazy right-wing groups. That should cause him to be removed. Ginni Thomas has supported deep state right-wing groups and Clarence has even spoken to them.
    True. Someone who already decided the case before it comes to the court.

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    actually the case has been remanded......
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    actually the case has been remanded......
    Trumps tax info may still come out before the election. hat should scare the hell out of you

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    Trumps tax info may still come out before the election. hat should scare the hell out of you
    I suspect his tax information will be public before the election.

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    Supreme Court blocks congressional subpoenas for Trump's financial records
    JULY 09, 2020 - 10:23 AM
    CATEGORIES: Politics
    By DEVIN DWYER, ABC News

    (WASHINGTON) -- The Supreme Court on Thursday blocked subpoenas from congressional Democrats for President Donald Trump's financial records.

    Chief Justice John Roberts, in a 7-2 opinion, reversed a lower court decision upholding four congressional subpoenas for the records, saying that it failed to adequately account for "weighty concerns regarding the separation of powers."

    Roberts returned the case to lower courts to reexamine the subpoenas in light of those concerns, not ruling out the possibility that the House subpoenas could be enforced in the future but delaying, for now, the prospect that the documents will be turned over to Democrats before the November election.

    "For more than two centuries, the political branches have resolved information disputes using the wide variety of means that the Constitution puts at their disposal. The nature of such interactions would be transformed by judicial enforcement of either of the approaches suggested by the parties, eroding a “[d]eeply embedded traditional way[] of conducting government.” Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co., 343 U. S., at 610 (Frankfurter, J., concurring). A balanced approach is necessary, one that takes a “considerable impression” from “the practice of the government,” McCulloch v. Maryland, 4 Wheat. 316, 401 (1819); see Noel Canning, 573 U. S., at 524–526, and “resist[s]” the “pressure inherent within each of the separate Branches to exceed the outer limits of its power,” INS v. Chadha, 462 U. S. 919, 951 (1983), Roberts wrote.

    "We therefore conclude that, in assessing whether a subpoena directed at the President’s personal information is “related to, and in furtherance of, a legitimate task of the Congress,” Watkins, 354 U. S., at 187, courts must perform a careful analysis that takes adequate account of the separation of powers principles at stake, including both the significant legislative interests of Congress and the “unique position” of the President, Clinton, 520 U. S., at 698 (internal quotation marks omitted). Several special considerations inform this analysis," Roberts wrote for the majority.

    "Congressional subpoenas for information from the President, however, implicate special concerns regarding the separation of powers. The courts below did not take adequate account of those concerns. The judgments of the Courts of Appeals for the D. C. Circuit and the Second Circuit are vacated, and the cases are remanded for further proceedings consistent with this opinion," he wrote.

    Despite the court ruling against House Democrats, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi cast it as a victory for congressional oversight of the president.

    "A careful reading of the Supreme Court rulings related to the President’s financial records is not good news for President Trump," she said in a statement.

    “The Court has reaffirmed the Congress’s authority to conduct oversight on behalf of the American people, as it asks for further information from the Congress. Congress’s constitutional responsibility to uncover the truth continues, specifically related to the President’s Russia connection that he is hiding," she said.

    "We will continue to press our case in the lower courts,” she added.

    In a separate but related case handed down just minutes before, Roberts, writing for a 7-2 majority, said Trump did not have immunity from subpoenas for his tax returns for his tax returns and other financial records sought by Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance in a grand jury investigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled Thursday cleared the way for prosecutors in New York to see President Trump’s financial records, a stunning defeat for Mr. Trump but a decision that probably means the records will be shielded from public scrutiny until after the election, perhaps indefinitely.

    In a separate decision, the court ruled that Congress could not, at least for now, see the same records. The vote in both cases was 7 to 2.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/09/u...gtype=Homepage
    Fake news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    The court said Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr. had the authority to subpoena the records from Trump’s private accounting firm. Trump had claimed an immunity from criminal investigations while in office.

    Read the Supreme Court’s opinion: Trump v. Vance

    Vance is investigating whether the Trump Organization falsified business records to conceal hush payments to two women, including pornographic film actress Stormy Daniels, who claimed they had sex with Trump before he took office. Trump has denied those claims.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...dc8_story.html
    Fake news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Barr and Trump are finding the president is not above the law. That has been their claim. Even righty justices had to decide according to the law. Except for Alito and Thomas. I would love to see the dissenting opinion. You know Clarence won't be writing it.
    You are arguing over fake news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Thomas is just a right winger ideologue.
    jacksonsprat22 is just a left winger ideologue.

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