Why atheists, Satanists, heathens, etc can't be Americans or Westerners

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I asked you, fuck knuckle.

Did you forget your meds for your mental illness????????

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Did you forget your meds for your mental illness????????

can you answer simple questions? no. your hypocrisy emerges almost instantly, king shitfer.

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can you answer simple questions? no. your hypocrisy emerges almost instantly, king shitfer.

If your question contains a crude insult, be ready to receive one back.

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can a minority individual be racist?

[Cypress]

The liberal Christians who fought against slavery were going against Christianity due to being influenced by Enlightenment philosophers. Just because someone is Christian, doesn't mean they're always fighting for Christianity. There are also Christians who fought for women's rights and LGBT rights. Humans are complicated. They hold on to religions they don't fully believe in and take action that goes against those religions.



It's not that it's a religion of slavery. It's that it's a religion that permits slavery.



I agree with that much. Christianity was very popular among slaves for a bunch of reasons. My only point is that Christianity permits slavery. It was only during the Enlightenment that we started having widespread debate over the morality of slavery and there was a push to end it.

And as for the role of Atheists, that's actually hard to say. Back then, especially in America, Atheists were ostracized from society. So we don't really know how many Christian Abolitionists were secretly Atheist. It would be like saying there were no gay people fighting against slavery. If I had to guess, I'd say there were, we just don't know who they were.

Christian theology did not stop developing when the ink was dry on the Gospel of John. Christian thinkers spent the next two thousand years interpreting the scripture, which is highly ambiguous and even contradictory. Which is what you would expect from a voluminous cannon that was written over the course of a thousand years by multiple authors. The liberal Christian tradition considered slavery a violation of natural law by the 1700's.

There were almost no aetheists among the enlightenment thinkers, they were mostly deists who believed in a natural creator of the universe.

I never put intellectual history into teams - devout, agnostic, deist - each occupying their own silo and operating independently of other groups.

Human ethical and intellectual advancement is a product of the collective experiences of all kinds of human groupings.

Christian scholasticism lead to the creation of universities and pursuit of the intellectual life. Christian scholasticism led to the age of science and the experimental method. Issac Newton, Francis Bacon, and John Locke were Christians. The age of science blossomed into the enlightenment. Voltaire, Montesque, Jefferson, et al were deists.

None if it happened in a vacuum or independently of each other.

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so much for equality under the law, eh fuckface?

[jacksonsprat22]

Christian theology did not stop developing when the ink was dry on the Gospel of John. Christian thinkers spent the next two thousand years interpreting the scripture, which is highly ambiguous and even contradictory. Which is what you would expect from a voluminous cannon that was written over the course of a thousand years by multiple authors.

There were almost no aetheists among the enlightenment thinkers, they were mostly deists who believed in a natural creator of the universe.

I never put intellectual history into teams - devout, agnostic, deist - each occupying their own silo and operating independently of other groups.

Human ethical and intellectual advancement is a product of the collective experiences of all kinds of human groupings.

Christian scholasticism lead to the creation of universities and pursuit of the intellectual life. Christian scholasticism led to the age of science and the experimental method. Issac Newton, Francis Bacon, and John Locke were Christians. The age of science blossomed into the enlightenment. Voltaire, Montesque, Jefferson, et al were deists.

None if it happened in a vacuum or independently of each other.

Deism is really atheism by current standards.

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Deism is really atheism by current standards.

yeah. masonic antihuman devilism.

[jacksonsprat22]

yeah. masonic antihuman devilism.

bladee blahh blahh

[Jack]

The Common Law in the US is based off of "religious" morality and values.

For example, not only rape, murder and things of that nature "sins" in Christianty and world religions, but are also "crimes" under "secular" law; with "secular law" having developed or evolved out of older religious and legal systems, such as Roman, Exodus, and so on.

An atheist, for example, can't have any objection to murder, rape and things of that nature except on faith, or on stealing and appropriating those moral values and axioms from world religions (much as degenerate heathen "religions" and cults such as "Satanism" have no morality to speak of which is compatible with that that of law, society and so forth).

So yes, I'd argue based on these facts, state and federal can and should, indeed favor Christianity (and monotheistic, world religion with compatible values) both in public and private over inferior and socially unacceptable trash such as atheism, Satanism and so forth, rather than pretending that such filth and worthlessness is in anyway "equal" to them, when it is decidedly inferior, and has no right to exist it all.

"The Code of Hammurabi is a well-preserved Babylonian code of law of ancient Mesopotamia, dated to about 1754 BC. It is one of the oldest deciphered writings of significant length in the world. The sixth Babylonian king, Hammurabi, enacted the code. A partial copy exists on a 2.25-metre-tall stone stele.Wikipedia"
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=code+of+ha...=v212-1&ia=web

It's where the phrase 'Eye for an Eye, Tooth for a Tooth' comes from.

[Cypress]

Deism is really atheism by current standards.

The reason they are two different words is because they are two different things.

I do not understand why posters get emotionally invested on being on teams - the atheist team or the Christian team.

I am on record sticking up for both groups.

Western civilization and knowlege is the product of the cumulative efforts of various traditions - the Christian thinkers, Enlightenment thinkers, Romantic era thinkers, the devout, the irreligious, and the agnostic

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bladee blahh blahh

good point, ignoramus.

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The reason they are two different words is because they are two different things.

I do not understand why posters get emotionally invested on being on teams - the atheist team or the Christian team.

I am on record sticking up for both groups.

Western civilization and knowlege is the product of the cumulative efforts of various traditions - the Christian thinkers, Enlightenment thinkers, Romantic era thinkers, the devout, the irreligious, and the agnostic

so when the atheists start beheading christians, where you gonna stand?

[jacksonsprat22]

The reason they are two different words is because they are two different things.

I do not understand why posters get emotionally invested on being on teams - the atheist team or the Christian team.

I am on record sticking up for both groups.

Western civilization and knowlege is the product of the cumulative efforts of various traditions - the Christian thinkers, Enlightenment thinkers, Romantic era thinkers, the devout, the irreligious, and the agnostic

Really can't follow your argument. Do you even know the meaning of "deism?"

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"The Code of Hammurabi is a well-preserved Babylonian code of law of ancient Mesopotamia, dated to about 1754 BC. It is one of the oldest deciphered writings of significant length in the world. The sixth Babylonian king, Hammurabi, enacted the code. A partial copy exists on a 2.25-metre-tall stone stele.Wikipedia"
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=code+of+ha...=v212-1&ia=web

It's where the phrase 'Eye for an Eye, Tooth for a Tooth' comes from.

does it assert moral relativism?