HUGE WIN for Religious Liberty. Blow to Obama

[Bourbon]

I’m kinda concern about the guys on the Forum cheering for this ...

[LV426]

I never said it was healthcare,,,and who are you to tell me I havent had choice???,

You're losing track of this thread so let's reset:

You said you've had the same "health care" for 30 years...but you don't say if it's the same health insurance. I think in your mind, health care and health insurance are interchangeable, but the reality is that they're not.

If you have an insurance plan, your "choice" is an illusion. It's a choice among providers your insurance company already chose to contract with. So you're making a choice from a corporation's choice, and you think that's freedom? How so? The freedom to pay a premium for limited access? How is that a sensible system?

Wouldn't you much rather have the choice to go to any doctor you want, and have unlimited access to all the doctors out there so you could find the best one for you?

It's like what I said about buying a car; you wouldn't buy the first car you saw at the first dealership you visited would you? You'd competitively shop. So why wouldn't you want the same for your health care?

Why is it so important to you who pays your doctor after they treat you???? I don't get it.

[LV426]

I've had a lot of choices, but with government controlled you only have one choice,,,THE GOVERNMENT,,,

Again, the "choice" here is who pays your doctor after they treat you...and I would ask, why do you care who does that? You already got the health care.

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You're losing track of this thread so let's reset:

You said you've had the same "health care" for 30 years...but you don't say if it's the same health insurance. I think in your mind, health care and health insurance are interchangeable, but the reality is that they're not.

If you have an insurance plan, your "choice" is an illusion. It's a choice among providers your insurance company already chose to contract with. So you're making a choice from a corporation's choice, and you think that's freedom? How so? The freedom to pay a premium for limited access? How is that a sensible system?

Wouldn't you much rather have the choice to go to any doctor you want, and have unlimited access to all the doctors out there so you could find the best one for you?

It's like what I said about buying a car; you wouldn't buy the first car you saw at the first dealership you visited would you? You'd competitively shop. So why wouldn't you want the same for your health care?

Why is it so important to you who pays your doctor after they treat you???? I don't get it.

maybe its you thats lost track cause i never said that,,go back and read it again and get back to me,,,

[LV426]

sorry I'm not hear for your viewing pleasure,,next time you come over for a beer we can discuss anything you want,,,

So you're just going to bow out of this debate because I asked questions you didn't want to answer. What a shame. Taking the coward's way out, I see...

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Again, the "choice" here is who pays your doctor after they treat you...and I would ask, why do you care who does that? You already got the health care.

because I dont want the government involved in my private life,,not to mention it violate the law/constitution,,,

the bigger question is why do you want to force me into it???

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So you're just going to bow out of this debate because I asked questions you didn't want to answer. What a shame. Taking the coward's way out, I see...

blah blah blah,,,

[LV426]

Interesting, which have you had? I’ve had Blue Cross Blue Shield, Aetna, Cigna, Molina, and Mutual of Omaha. They have all dictated that I use in network Dr. and have denied care for things my Dr. has prescribed.

I have had Kaiser, BC/BS, and Aetna...all three suck balls.

[Phantasmal]

because I dont want the government involved in my private life,,not to mention it violate the law/constitution,,,

the bigger question is why do you want to force me into it???

Too late, they already are if you have an SS number, vote, or pay taxes.

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I have had Kaiser, BC/BS, and Aetna...all three suck balls.

whats sad is you think the government can do better,,,

[Irish]

https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2020...mps-obamacare/

I love this

Fuck Obama

Obama was the giant Marxist POS who put us in this position today.

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Too late, they already are if you have an SS number, vote, or pay taxes.

doesnt mean I bow down like a useful idiot and let them do more,,,

[Phantasmal]

I have had Kaiser, BC/BS, and Aetna...all three suck balls.

My daughter worked for Aetna, she now is a Medicare specialist. She is brilliant and helps me with all my insurance problems. She knows all their tricks.

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My daughter worked for Aetna, she now is a Medicare specialist. She is brilliant and helps me with all my insurance problems. She knows all their tricks.

so it takes a family connection to make it easy,,

just another reason to avoid it,,,

[Phantasmal]

doesnt mean I bow down like a useful idiot and let them do more,,,

It has absolutely nothing to do with bowing down.