Doc Dutch (07-08-2020)
Hello Dutch Uncle,
Oh yeah, heard that. People want to think capitalism is the end-all, be-all of economic systems, but capitalism is not perfect. Some of the problems are just what you describe. The problem is capitalism requires a lot of stupid people to exploit. The last thing capitalism wants is for everyone to be so smart they see right through all the marketing come-ons. That would instantly kill most of the business for really dumb far overpriced stuff. And people would realize what a scam greedy big money has with legalized government corruption. Why, they might get organized and want to pass the American Anti-Corruption Act. That would kill big greedy profits for a lot of very powerful people.
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Doc Dutch (07-08-2020)
Here's another great idea...Get Rid of Pelosi!!!!
To a degree, this is exclusive of Trump and the nightmare he is.
Among other circumstances it is largely due to of fake Democratic so-called representatives like Pelosi that we wound up with a monster like Trump. Dems abandoned their Progressive roots and became Republican-lite, corporate masters and all.
"Two Fridge" Nancy has a very competent brilliant Progressive challenger who I hope wipes the floor with her.
David Dayen: Why Pelosi is TO BLAME for coronavirus ECONOMIC disaster
BLUEXITA Modest Proposal For Separating Blue States From Red
Dear Red-State Trump Voter,
Let’s face it, guys: We’re done.
It is a tragedy that so much of the work that so many men and women toiled at for so long to make this a better country, and a better world, has been thrown away, leaving us all in such needless peril.
This is why our separation in all but name is necessary.
https://newrepublic.com/article/1409...mp-red-america
Agreed in part but it's incorrect to say "capitalism requires a lot of stupid people to exploit". Greedy assholese exist regardless of economic system. People are still people. The "problem" with capitalism only exists with unregulated or Laissez-faire; it's capitalism with Jungle Rules. Capitalism can be "win-win".
IMO, the best government and economic system with our present level of technology is what we have: Federal Constitutional Republic, regulated capitalism and a socialist safety net for the sick, aged and minors. The problem is that people on both sides of Congress have weakened parts of that system to be dysfunctional.
"Hatred is a failure of imagination" - Graham Greene, "The Power and the Glory"
PoliTalker (07-08-2020), ThatOwlWoman (07-08-2020)
Hello Dutch Uncle,
Good clarification. I should have said 'capitalism as we use it.'
Because of legalized government corruption, we do not have proper regulation of our capitalism. This threatens our very nation because it contributes to a dangerous rise in extreme wealth inequality and a general resentment in those who are disadvantaged by our system. Worse, the greedy and powerful manipulate the media to keep people hating the government. They use the government as the scape-goat for the way they extract our wealth.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
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PoliTalker (07-08-2020), ThatOwlWoman (07-08-2020)
Agree!
Here is what has happened though, at least in my opinion. People still vote. The younger people and the middle-aged ppl have the most votes of all. How is that possible? Because they vote with their wallets. America is no longer a democratic republic. The people with the most power are the plutocrats, and their base are the people who have the most spending power.
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
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Doc Dutch (07-08-2020)
PoliTalker (07-08-2020), ThatOwlWoman (07-09-2020)
Well said.
History has shown us that the best economic system in human existence, so far, is well-fettered capitalism. You don't want to stifle it completely (communism), or severely (socialism) -- but you don't want it to run free either (laizze-faire) or -- as you said -- you end up like we are currently, with a huge "underclass" and a tiny 1% holding most of the wealth.
A large segment of our citizenry has been convinced that taxes are bad, our (horribly high) taxes go to support lazy urban slackers, illegals are living off our taxes, taxes stifle business and job creation, and so on.
Why is that, and who would want them to believe that this is true?
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
PoliTalker (07-08-2020)
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
ThatOwlWoman (07-08-2020)
I love the topic of critical thinking. It's vital to an informed person's daily life, as well as to her public life and all the decisions she will make. I'd like to offer my definition of that cherished concept, and hope to hear yours.
Critical thinking: The ability to discern whether what is on your plate is manure, or manna.
How does one learn critical thinking? Question authority. Always. Doesn't matter whether the authority is your mom and dad, a teacher at school, the info packet you get when you sign up for a new job, your drill sergeant, your spouse. Question it, even if you have to do it internally.
Your one-word mantra should be: WHY?
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
Doc Dutch (07-08-2020)
"Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals." -- Mark Twain
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