Sounds like 2016 !
"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.
Iolo/Penderyn (07-07-2020), Phantasmal (07-06-2020)
They may have hated the ACA at the time due to Republican propaganda, but they love it now. If Republicans didn't defund it in '12, it would be the foundation for the best health insurance program in history. In their quest to make Obama a one term POTUS, they actively worked to destroy the nation. The Teabag movement was born out of overt racism. They wanted the slave out of the White House. Don't kid yourself about why the mid terms went the way they did.
LMAO. Yes. Like that tax giveaway that Republicans crafted with the help of Democrats. Half of the ACA was straight out of the Right's playbook. They couldn't take 'yes' for an answer.
The problem with the Democrat party still exists and if anything, has gotten worse. As the Democrats become a party of the Left and increasingly refuse to work in a bipartisan fashion with Republicans even when they win an election their victory will be short-lived.
Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
Phantasmal (07-06-2020)
trump is running in circles, trying to get his polling numbers up. His Nazi speech writer is convinced that attacking black people is the best way to achieve that. Today, he's attacking NASCAR.
With every rally, and every horribly racist speech, the numbers go in the wrong direction for trump.
Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
ThatOwlWoman (07-06-2020)
Althea (07-06-2020)
Actually, it was hated then because the rollout was a disaster, Obama lied repeatedly about "If you like your health insurance you can keep it..." etc., and the fact that both choice and quality of plans plummeted.
It wasn't "the best health insurance plan in history" but rather a mediocre plan who's only real success was putting more people on Medicaid.
For those who had individual health care, rather than an employer plan, they got royally screwed.
Obamacare itself was a disaster. The tax penalty was hated by virtually everyone. The new taxes supposed to pay for the plan in big part failed to deliver. All the top tier health insurers bailed on Obamacare leaving the field of providers to crappy second and third tier companies. Since one thing in the law was that 18 to 26 year-olds could remain on their parent's insurance plans (mostly employer ones), half the most lucrative pool of young healthy people required to prop up the sick and elderly on Obamacare were taken out of the picture. The whole thing was and is a mess.
Not one Republican voted for Obamacare. The Republicans weren't even included in the crafting of the legislation. The Democrats did it in secret committee meetings and locked the Republicans out. When they realized they really kind of needed the Republicans to buy in at least a little Obama met with the head Republicans from Congress--finally after months of ignoring them--thinking he could brow beat them as 'the smartest man in the room' and got his ass handed to him in the conference meeting at the White House where guys like Paul Ryan was spewing factual evidence so fast Obama didn't have a clue what was happening.LMAO. Yes. Like that tax giveaway that Republicans crafted with the help of Democrats. Half of the ACA was straight out of the Right's playbook. They couldn't take 'yes' for an answer.
The ACA is purely a Democrat FU.
Truth Detector (07-16-2020)
The roll out was a disaster because 60% of the governors refused to set up an exchange. Insurance companies just won in the Supreme Court. They are owed countless millions of dollars that they were promised. When Republicans de funded the risk corridor program, rates went up...as planned by Republicans.
The ACA was never allowed to function as designed, due to obstructionism and de funding. Republicans refused to come to the table. They weren't locked out.
You can try to revise history all you want. I kept my doctor, and had the best coverage of my life until insurers were either put out of business, or simply left the exchanges.
It was a nice nod in the direction of bipartisanship. But it also perpetuates a deceptive narrative, repeated often by Republicans, that they were completely excluded from the process that resulted in Obamacare. While it is true that no Republican voted for the final bill, it is blatantly untrue that it contains no GOP DNA. In fact, to make such an assertion is like researching your ancestry and going no further back than your mother and father.
Not only were Republican senators deeply involved in the process up until its conclusion, but it's a cinch that the ACA might have become law months earlier if the Democrats, hoping for a bipartisan bill, hadn't spent enormous time and effort wooing GOP senators — only to find themselves gulled by false promises of cooperation. And unlike Majority Leader Mitch McConnell's semi-secret proceedings that involved only a handful of trusted colleagues, Obamacare, until the very end of the process, was open to public scrutiny.
Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
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