"Woke"

[Micawber]

As someone who sits right on the cusp between boomer and Gen X, even if woke is now some pop culture hit,
it doesn't change the fact that neither myself or any friend of mine uses the term, and I know I would not
know of it unless is was some strange irritant for rightees. Cawacko started leaning on it in derision perhaps
6 months ago like a chew toy. I was like "huh?" Maybe now I've heard talking heads Cuomo or Anderson Cooper
use in twice. Not sure.

[Doc Dutch]

As someone who sits right on the cusp between boomer and Gen X, even if woke is now some pop culture hit,
it doesn't change the fact that neither myself or any friend of mine uses the term, and I know I would not
know of it unless is was some strange irritant for rightees. Cawacko started leaning on it in derision perhaps
6 months ago like a chew toy. I was like "huh?" Maybe now I've heard talking heads Cuomo or Anderson Cooper
use in twice. Not sure.

As long as you also don't use terms like "cancel culture" and "Fake News" then you are good to go.

[cawacko]

This is from last year when Obama discussed/called out woke political culture and cancel culture.


'That's not bringing about change': Obama advises 'woke' young people not to be so judgmental

Former President Barack Obama has a message for the "politically woke" crowd that has become prolific on social media in recent years: Get over it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ly/4095362002/



Obama on Call-Out Culture: ‘That’s Not Activism’

Former President Barack Obama made a rare foray into the cultural conversation this week, objecting to the prevalence of “call-out culture” and “wokeness” during an interview about youth activism at the Obama Foundation summit on Tuesday.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/31/u...l-culture.html

[Micawber]

As long as you also don't use terms like "cancel culture" and "Fake News" then you are good to go.

Deal on cancel culture. No promises on fake news. That one is too big to avoid. Applies to anything I don't like.
If someone cuts me off in traffic I point and shout fake news!

[cawacko]

As someone who sits right on the cusp between boomer and Gen X, even if woke is now some pop culture hit,
it doesn't change the fact that neither myself or any friend of mine uses the term, and I know I would not
know of it unless is was some strange irritant for rightees. Cawacko started leaning on it in derision perhaps
6 months ago like a chew toy. I was like "huh?" Maybe now I've heard talking heads Cuomo or Anderson Cooper
use in twice. Not sure.

LOL, the term has been around for years. Get out of your white San Diego bubble homeboy. It's a term used by the youth. Old rich white men don't go around speaking about being woke.

[Micawber]

This is from last year when Obama discussed/called out woke political culture and cancel culture.


'That's not bringing about change': Obama advises 'woke' young people not to be so judgmental

Former President Barack Obama has a message for the "politically woke" crowd that has become prolific on social media in recent years: Get over it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ly/4095362002/



Obama on Call-Out Culture: ‘That’s Not Activism’

Former President Barack Obama made a rare foray into the cultural conversation this week, objecting to the prevalence of “call-out culture” and “wokeness” during an interview about youth activism at the Obama Foundation summit on Tuesday.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/31/u...l-culture.html

What didn't he like about it?

[Doc Dutch]

LOL, the term has been around for years. Get out of your white San Diego bubble homeboy. It's a term used by the youth. Old rich white men don't go around speaking about being woke.

True for most. Rich white guys like Trump and Jeffrey Epstein who hang around college dorms probably know and use the term.

[dukkha]

An opinion piece by somebody named "Damon Young"?

Never heard of him.

If the word Woke annoys you so much, why not stop using it? Only you and deplorables here obsess over it.

No lefties here are using it, and for that matter Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, and Michelle Obama aren't using it either.

I haven't even heard AOC use it in any measurable way.

It's a deviant mindset. it's dangerous as well in that it distorts reality by viewing the world that way
It's MS Dem in that Dems just go along with it . They dont dare condemn PC

[cawacko]

True for most. Rich white guys like Trump and Jeffrey Epstein who hang around college dorms probably know and use the term.

Ok

[Micawber]

LOL, the term has been around for years. Get out of your white San Diego bubble homeboy. It's a term used by the youth. Old rich white men don't go around speaking about being woke.

Which is particularly ironic observation now if you can also remember that you pasted that word in my mouth several times in an attempt to degrade me.

[Micawber]

It didn't take THAT long, but the term has been hijacked by the usual reactionaries and status quoers who would prefer that America somehow find its way back to the 1950's and not have to come to terms with centuries of inequality and injustice.

It's a mock now - a slur. "Hey, ya little wokies, nyah, nyah, nyah."

Like children.

Are there some who overused the term, or made it a "better than thou" boast? Of course. But all it means is being aware. Acknowledging the issues that are right in front of our face.

It's something we all should aspire toward. When people mock the term, all I really hear is that they'd prefer to remain in the dark.

You could do this exact thread and substitute "virtue signaling"

Republicans don't do anything good so they spend their time degrading virtuous acts and professed beliefs as mere signals.


Is it better to give to charity and wear a shirt that says you did, or don't give to charity and mock someone who does?
Is is better to wear a mask to save others and be guilty of virtue signaling or not do that, infect others, and make those who do
feel like they are breaking a cultural moray and chill safe habits and complying with scientific best health practices?
The cynicism on the right is metastatic.

[cawacko]

Which is particularly ironic observation now if you can also remember that you pasted that word in my mouth several times in an attempt to degrade me.

You like to call others, and specifically me, racist well you better be woke yourself when you do so. You know what they say about throwing stones...

[Micawber]

You like to call others, and specifically me, racist well you better be woke yourself when you do so. You know what they say about throwing stones...

Fair point. A least you knew what racist was when I said it. And just to clarify, I don't consider you racist outside of the context of some policies you prefer that have negative racial impact. When you called my "fake woke" I didn't know wtf you were even talking about.

My essential point was only about the astroturfing and strawman nature of critical political memes, tropes and cliches, per the OP

[Doc Dutch]

You could do this exact thread and substitute "virtue signaling"

Republicans don't do anything good so they spend their time degrading virtuous acts and professed beliefs as mere signals.


Is it better to give to charity and wear a shirt that says you did, or don't give to charity and mock someone who does?
Is is better to wear a mask to save others and be guilty of virtue signaling or not do that, infect others, and make those who do
feel like they are breaking a cultural moray and chill the habit of safe habits and complying with scientific best health practices?
The cynicism on the right is metastatic.

Agreed.

By broadbrushing all Republicans, you are committing the same error you accuse them of doing.

Again, I agree, but I hope you are wise enough to see that many on the Left are just as guilty of pointing fingers when our nation would be better off if they just did the right thing.

[Bigdog]

It's a deviant mindset. it's dangerous as well in that it distorts reality by viewing the world that way
It's MS Dem in that Dems just go along with it . They dont dare condemn PC

Yep.

The Fascist Left has redefined "liberal" to mean massive Authoritarian Socialist gov't. And redefined "woke" to mean "no free speech".