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    I don't get obsession with PAST slavery? The majority of other nations engaged in slavery for hundreds of years and not all based on skin color.
    This is HISTORY and documented. The key lesson is that MOST nations got past it, reformed and have moved on.
    All but one. Africa still has the highest rate in the world.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
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    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    "This is fine" was Trump's speech last night. One line on a pandemic, glossing over the economy.

    You would think this was any other year.

    Trump can't handle crisis. He's down to this last desperate attempt to keep his followers in line by wrapping himself up in the flag.
    it was designed for teh 4th of July. he answers Q's about pandemic.
    He just held a press conference on the recovery -which is going gangbusters.
    If he had gone into the pandemic -you'd be bitching about that "why is he talking about the pandemic on the 4th?"
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    I don't know how you were inverted / No one alerted you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    I don't get obsession with PAST slavery? The majority of other nations engaged in slavery for hundreds of years and not all based on skin color.
    This is HISTORY and documented. The key lesson is that MOST nations got past it, reformed and have moved on.
    All but one. Africa still has the highest rate in the world.
    it's the SAME THING as the NYTimes 1691 Project. America is a racist construct.
    it cannot be redeemed -it must be torn down. etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    There could be no better place to celebrate America’s independence than beneath this magnificent, incredible majestic mountain and monument to the greatest Americans who have ever lived. Today we pay tribute to the exceptional lives and extraordinary legacies of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and Teddy Roosevelt. I am here as your president to proclaim before the country and before the world, this monument will never be desecrated, these heroes will never be defamed, their legacy will never ever be destroyed, their achievements will never be forgotten, and Mount Rushmore will stand forever as an eternal tribute to our forefathers and to our freedom.

    We gather tonight to herald the most important day in the history of nations, July 4th, 1776. At those words, every American heart should swell with pride, every American family should cheer with delight, and every American patriot should be filled with joy because each of you lives in the most magnificent country in the history of the world and it will soon be greater than ever before.

    Our founders launched not only a revolution in government, but a revolution in the pursuit of justice, equality, liberty, and prosperity. No nation has done more to advance the human condition than the United States of America and no people have done more to promote human progress than the citizens of our great nation. It was all made possible by the courage of 56 patriots who gathered in Philadelphia 244 years ago and signed the Declaration of Independence. They enshrined a divine truth that changed the world forever when they said, “All men are created equal.” These immortal words set in motion the unstoppable march of freedom. Our founders boldly declared that we are all endowed with the same divine rights, given us by our Creator in Heaven, and that which God has given us, we will allow no one ever to take away ever.

    1776 represented the culmination of thousands of years of Western civilization and the triumph of not only spirit, but of wisdom, philosophy, and reason. And yet, as we meet here tonight, there is a growing danger that threatens every blessing our ancestors fought so hard for, struggled, they bled to secure. Our nation is witnessing a merciless campaign to wipe out our history, defame our heroes, erase our values, and indoctrinate our children. Angry mobs are trying to tear down statues of our founders, deface our most sacred memorials, and unleash a wave of violent crime in our cities. Many of these people have no idea why they’re doing this, but some know what they are doing. They think the American people are weak and soft and submissive, but no, the American people are strong and proud and they will not allow our country and all of its values, history, and culture to be taken from them.

    One of their political weapons is cancel culture, driving people from their jobs, shaming dissenters, and demanding total submission from anyone who disagrees. This is the very definition of totalitarianism, and it is completely alien to our culture and to our values and it has absolutely no place in the United States of America.

    This attack on our liberty, our magnificent liberty must be stopped and it will be stopped very quickly. We will expose this dangerous movement, protect our nation’s children from this radical assault, and preserve our beloved American way of life. In our schools, our newsrooms, even our corporate boardrooms, there is a new far-left fascism that demands absolute allegiance. If you do not speak its language, perform its rituals, recite its mantras, and follow its commandments, then you will be censored, banished, blacklisted, persecuted, and punished. It’s not going to happen to us.
    Just a FANTASTIC post. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    your schtick is played out.
    you voted for asg because he is a racist and a homophobe and you are just an old senile hate filled ass hole

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    you voted for asg because he is a racist and a homophobe and you are just an old senile hate filled ass hole
    now that's fresh and fancy!
    morality is a set of beliefs, attitudes, and behaviors that facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships.



    Trump Wins,
    by definition
    https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    BS. I've seen him on the stump. he gets the cultural revolution. was it written for him? well *DUH*
    the cultural wars have been lost for the white Christian party, gay rights /marriage , Women's choice, gays in the military just to name a few
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    Trump is for protecting monuments for Confederate generals. They were traitors who wanted to destroy the United States. Some of us think traitors should not be honored. Where in Arron Burr's statue? How about the Rosenbergs? Countries do not honor traitors, especially ones who waged war to destroy the country.
    Alexander Stephens, Jefferson Davis VP explained it.
    The US constitution is based on the assumption of the equality of the races.But our new government is founded on exactly the opposite idea,its foundation is laid, its cornerstone rests upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man, that slavery is his natural and moral condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Trump is for protecting monuments for Confederate generals. They were traitors who wanted to destroy the United States. Some of us think traitors should not be honored. Where in Arron Burr's statue? How about the Rosenbergs? Countries do not honor traitors, especially ones who waged war to destroy the country.
    Alexander Stephens, Jefferson Davis VP explained it.
    The US constitution is based on the assumption of the equality of the races.But our new government is founded on exactly the opposite idea,its foundation is laid, its cornerstone rests upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man, that slavery is his natural and moral condition.
    The most obvious is Benedict Arnold. Someone brought up the other night how hard conservatives would fight to preserve a Benedict Arnold statue or memorial - it was pretty illustrative. Of course they wouldn't.

    But Lee? A guy who fought to keep slavery? That's American heritage!

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    And you are just a dishonest sleeve bag
    "SLEEVE bag"? What the heck is a "sleeve bag"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    The most obvious is Benedict Arnold. Someone brought up the other night how hard conservatives would fight to preserve a Benedict Arnold statue or memorial - it was pretty illustrative. Of course they wouldn't.

    But Lee? A guy who fought to keep slavery? That's American heritage!
    Post FAILURE. HUGE failure. 'Sigh'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    There could be no better place to celebrate America’s independence than beneath this magnificent, incredible majestic mountain and monument to the greatest Americans who have ever lived. Today we pay tribute to the exceptional lives and extraordinary legacies of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and Teddy Roosevelt. I am here as your president to proclaim before the country and before the world, this monument will never be desecrated, these heroes will never be defamed, their legacy will never ever be destroyed, their achievements will never be forgotten, and Mount Rushmore will stand forever as an eternal tribute to our forefathers and to our freedom.

    We gather tonight to herald the most important day in the history of nations, July 4th, 1776. At those words, every American heart should swell with pride, every American family should cheer with delight, and every American patriot should be filled with joy because each of you lives in the most magnificent country in the history of the world and it will soon be greater than ever before.

    Our founders launched not only a revolution in government, but a revolution in the pursuit of justice, equality, liberty, and prosperity. No nation has done more to advance the human condition than the United States of America and no people have done more to promote human progress than the citizens of our great nation. It was all made possible by the courage of 56 patriots who gathered in Philadelphia 244 years ago and signed the Declaration of Independence. They enshrined a divine truth that changed the world forever when they said, “All men are created equal.” These immortal words set in motion the unstoppable march of freedom. Our founders boldly declared that we are all endowed with the same divine rights, given us by our Creator in Heaven, and that which God has given us, we will allow no one ever to take away ever.

    1776 represented the culmination of thousands of years of Western civilization and the triumph of not only spirit, but of wisdom, philosophy, and reason. And yet, as we meet here tonight, there is a growing danger that threatens every blessing our ancestors fought so hard for, struggled, they bled to secure. Our nation is witnessing a merciless campaign to wipe out our history, defame our heroes, erase our values, and indoctrinate our children. Angry mobs are trying to tear down statues of our founders, deface our most sacred memorials, and unleash a wave of violent crime in our cities. Many of these people have no idea why they’re doing this, but some know what they are doing. They think the American people are weak and soft and submissive, but no, the American people are strong and proud and they will not allow our country and all of its values, history, and culture to be taken from them.

    One of their political weapons is cancel culture, driving people from their jobs, shaming dissenters, and demanding total submission from anyone who disagrees. This is the very definition of totalitarianism, and it is completely alien to our culture and to our values and it has absolutely no place in the United States of America.

    This attack on our liberty, our magnificent liberty must be stopped and it will be stopped very quickly. We will expose this dangerous movement, protect our nation’s children from this radical assault, and preserve our beloved American way of life. In our schools, our newsrooms, even our corporate boardrooms, there is a new far-left fascism that demands absolute allegiance. If you do not speak its language, perform its rituals, recite its mantras, and follow its commandments, then you will be censored, banished, blacklisted, persecuted, and punished. It’s not going to happen to us.
    You are simple enough to fall for poorly scripted and gaudy imagery, just like the Germans of the late 30’s.

    You are desperately attracted to fake strong men. (I wonder what your father was like?)

    You are desperate to have justification to look down on someone. An us v them excites you, likely to the point of sexual gratification,

    You have serious issues that are unlikely to be resolved in this lifetime!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    I don't get obsession with PAST slavery? The majority of other nations engaged in slavery for hundreds of years and not all based on skin color.
    This is HISTORY and documented. The key lesson is that MOST nations got past it, reformed and have moved on.
    All but one. Africa still has the highest rate in the world.
    So it's okay then. Thanks, I was pretty sure slavery was a bad thing, but you've straightened me out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concart View Post
    So it's okay then. Thanks, I was pretty sure slavery was a bad thing, but you've straightened me out.
    "The key lesson is that MOST nations got past it, reformed and have moved on."
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    If you continue to support Trump and think this White Nationalist speech was awesome, you are a racist.

    This should have been a speech to a nation ravaged by COVID and facing economic uncertainty, instead it was a rally cry to racist, his base.

    Trump blew another opportunity.
    You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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