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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
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    Hillary Clinton on Thursday said President Trump poses a "clear and present danger" to America's future and democracy.

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    Results
    Of 2,541 patients, with a median total hospitalization time of 6 days (IQR: 4-10 days), median age was 64 years (IQR:53-76 years), 51% male, 56% African American, with median time to follow-up of 28.5 days (IQR:3-53). Overall in-hospital mortality was 18.1% (95% CI:16.6%-19.7%); by treatment: hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin, 157/783 (20.1% [95% CI: 17.3%-23.0%]), hydroxychloroquine alone, 162/1202 (13.5% [95% CI: 11.6%-15.5%]), azithromycin alone, 33/147 (22.4% [95% CI: 16.0%-30.1%]), and neither drug, 108/409 (26.4% [95% CI: 22.2%-31.0%])​. Primary cause of mortality was respiratory failure (88%); no patient had documented torsades de pointes. From Cox regression modeling, predictors of mortality were age>65 years (HR:2.6 [95% CI:1.9-3.3]), white race (HR:1.7 [95% CI:1.4-2.1]), CKD (HR:1.7 [95%CI:1.4-2.1]), reduced O2 saturation level on admission (HR:1.5 [95%CI:1.1-2.1]), and ventilator use during admission (HR: 2.2 [95%CI:1.4-3.3]). Hydroxychloroquine provided a 66% hazard ratio reduction, and hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin 71% compared to neither treatment (p < 0.001).
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    In this multi-hospital assessment, when controlling for COVID-19 risk factors, treatment with hydroxychloroquine alone and in combination with azithromycin was associated with reduction in COVID-19 associated mortality. Prospective trials are needed to examine this impact.
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    By all means, take it. People have a right to be stupid as long as it doesn't hurt others. You still have to wear those masks in public establishments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
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    Hillary Clinton on Thursday said President Trump poses a "clear and present danger" to America's future and democracy.
    Welp, Hillary said it, I guess that automatically makes it wrong.

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    Do Trump sycophants even know it's an excessive anti-inflammatory med and has no effects on viruses? So the only thing it might do is give you a little extra time. If things are bad enough you'd need such meds you aren't going to recover in that extra time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Welp, Hillary said it, I guess that automatically makes it wrong.
    no you douche bag.
    I was responding to your stupid "Trump is a danger to democracy" -where i told you "you sound like a Hillary bot
    go back and re-read until you get it

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    you've been systematically lied to by researchers

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    no you douche bag.
    I was responding to your stupid "Trump is a danger to democracy" -where i told you "you sound like a Hillary bot
    go back and re-read until you get it
    I know. I'm saying that you sound like an NPC. And you seem to be justifying your point by saying Hillary actually did say this, as if that is somehow an argument against Trump being bad for Democracy.
    Basically, you're using Hitler Ate Sugar, but with more cringe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodile View Post
    Do Trump sycophants even know it's an excessive anti-inflammatory med and has no effects on viruses? So the only thing it might do is give you a little extra time. If things are bad enough you'd need such meds you aren't going to recover in that extra time.
    Shut up fatso, you're a prime candidate for the virus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    I know. I'm saying that you sound like an NPC. And you seem to be justifying your point by saying Hillary actually did say this, as if that is somehow an argument against Trump being bad for Democracy.
    Basically, you're using Hitler Ate Sugar, but with more cringe.
    now you sound like refried confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    now you sound like refried confusion.
    I have the millennial moron on ignore. She's not worth responding to, shit for brains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    I have the millennial moron on ignore. She's not worth responding to, shit for brains.
    true. 1/2 the damn board now are freaks out just because of the election
    and not worth engaging

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    Our results do differ from some other studies," Zervos told a news conference. "What we think was important in ours ... is that patients were treated early. For hydroxychloroquine to have a benefit, it needs to begin before the patients begin to suffer some of the severe immune reactions that patients can have with Covid," he added.

    Much more work needs to be done to elucidate what the final treatment plan should be for Covid-19," Kalkanis added. "But we feel ... that these are critically important results to add to the mix of how we move forward if there's a second surge, and in relevant other parts of the world. Now we can help people combat this disease and to reduce the mortality rate."
    Zervos said hydroxychloroquine can help interfere with the virus directly and also reduces inflammation.

    The Henry Ford team wrote that 82% of their patients received hydroxychloroquine within the first 24 hours of admission, and 91% within the first 48 hours of admission.
    They wrote that in comparison, a study of patients at 25 New York hospitals started taking the drug "at any time during their hospitalization."
    But patients in that New York study, published in May in the Journal of the American Medical Association, started taking hydroxychloroquine on average one day after being hospitalized.

    While helpful, observational studies are not as valuable as controlled clinical trials. Considered the gold standard in medicine, patients in a clinical trial are randomly assigned to take either the drug or a placebo, which is a treatment that does nothing. Doctors then follow the patients to see how they fare.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/healt...udy/index.html
    Why hasn't Trump issued an EO allowing people to by this OTC? What is he hiding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Hydroxy does not work. Nearly every study has shown that. The ones with the most cases involved were clearest. European studies with thousands of patients say it was harmful. Rightys keep defending it, because to them, they are defending trump. They are conned. They have no shame. If Trump says it, they will say it.
    What I will say is ‘further study is needed’ lol.

    This is such a ridiculous ‘issue’. It takes time to evaluate the efficacy of drug treatments especially with a novel virus. Don’t you lefties like to talk about how novel the novel China Virus is?

    Well, here’s your chance for some much needed logical consistency: wait a year, and we’ll see if Trump was wrong. Then you can start 55 different threads on it—if he is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Why hasn't Trump issued an EO allowing people to by this OTC? What is he hiding?
    you cant be this dumb. It was crucify him politically after the FDA withdrew off label approval.
    Plus the entire medical establishmnet will not follow treatment protocol for their trials,and it gets bad name

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