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I would agree that more testing is a good thing, but again, it's hard to assess the performance of states in comparison with each other when the rates vary so much.Originally Posted by PoliTalker
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What makes you think it was outdoors? Because they grilled food? LOL at you. It is beyond stupid to attempt to politicize this by saying 'they did it first'. The protesters, at least the ones without masks, were reckless as well. So what?
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It's not sugar coating. It's simply looking at the numbers.
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People usually barbecue outdoors, but I'll concede that it could have been indoors. Maybe that's a California thing. Here in NC, we do it outdoors.
I was actually making the point that the media and the left have politicized this. They will heavily criticize any protesters for reopening businesses, but they will either support or ignore the same behaviors by BLM or Antifa.
Because they have politicized this, it engenders doubts regarding what is important to prevent the spread vs. what isn't. And the comments I referenced regarding the protests would actually seem to make the argument for reopening easier.
Stretch (07-02-2020)
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Majority recover. Will there be constant kvetching year-round now for all eternity for every one of the many corona viruses? Every flu season?
Every death due to cigarettes? Heart disease? Pulmonary disease? Diabetes? Obesity?
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
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No one knows the long term effects this disease will have on their bodies.
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Like, wow!
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VERY good point. Thank you.
Stretch (07-02-2020)
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Hello Woko Haram,
That is unimportant. Fighting the war we find ourselves in is.
Priorities.
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I would say it is important to an extent. Being able to assess states accurately should give us an idea of which approaches work vs. which don't.
The beauty of our system is that each state sets its own rules. The hazard of this is that it does have ramifications for neighboring states, but over time, we can advise certain states to change course as needed.
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Nonsense. Stop whining about the media. It was stupid to protest without a mask. It was irresponsible to protest without a mask. There, now we have that out of the way. Move along to responding instead of playing the whataboutism game.
PoliTalker (07-03-2020)
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It's not whataboutism if you literally have the media now quoting health officials as saying that the protests don't seem to have caused more of the spread.
If it really is true that the protests didn't increase the spread, then that completely undermines the policies in place that ban mass gatherings.
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Hello Woko Haram,
The time has come and passed. We know what is effective. Good advice is being ignored. Good leadership would provide more effective direction by focusing on the task at hand rather than an extremely foolish reelection meme for the sake of one selfish person.
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Yes, it is whataboutism. Some behaviors are more risky than others. Being outdoors decreases the chance of infection ten fold. So reporting that the protests don't seem to have been spreader events is not political, it is FACTUAL. You overly sensitive righties have to play poor widdle victim and claim the press is biased. Facts are not biased. There is not currently any evidence that the protests caused an increase in the spread. That's called a fact. it is supported somewhat by the fact that outdoor spread is difficult, and many protesters wore masks. Again, that is simply factual. Facts have no political bias. We can assume that there were people among the protesters that had the virus. But if on average they infected less than one other person, then there would be no uptick in cases due to the virus. Once again, it's called math, and math is not partisan either. So stop whining about facts. Deal with them. When we point to Trumps indoor rally with no masks, we do so because that behavior is FAR more likely to spread the virus than an outdoor rally, and the PRESIDENT could have prevented that rally from occurring. Do tell who could have prevented the protests from happening? Most were organic.
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Death rate still declining, more testing, how many days in a row are you fucking retards going to post the same fake statistics?
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