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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    The fact is that all of our recent Presidents have been no where near good enough, because the system is broken, America is broken.

    But Obama fooled me for awhile....I believed in him for about a year, till we voted him in and he betrayed us, till he made no effort to do what he said he was going to try to do.
    I lost interest in Obama during his first term and refused to vote him in for a second term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    The fact is that all of our recent Presidents have been no where near good enough, because the system is broken, America is broken.

    But Obama fooled me for awhile....I believed in him for about a year, tell we voted him in and he betrayed us, till he made no effort to do what he said he was going to try to do.
    If you looked at his background carefully--something both he and his willing accomplices in the MSM hid as much as they could--you'd have known the guy was an empty suit, all hat no cattle, all talk no action.

    Obama made a good politician but he was an incompetent leader and manager and he had the track record to prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    If you looked at his background carefully--something both he and his willing accomplices in the MSM hid as much as they could--you'd have known the guy was an empty suit, all hat no cattle, all talk no action.

    Obama made a good politician but he was an incompetent leader and manager and he had the track record to prove it.
    Obama worked for the oligarchs. It's that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    I don't really care about the ethics of a wealthy person. No nation can survive with a small ownership class and withering middle class.
    You should....looking at America through this prism brings great understanding of what has gone wrong.

    At root the problem is that the naive men of the Enlightenment thought that greed could be empowered and then harnessed to make everyone better....what they did not understand is that greed is too big a tiger for most people to tame, which is why our ancestors tended to always warn about the dangers of greed.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    You should....looking at America through this prism brings great understanding of what has gone wrong.

    At root the problem is that the naive men of the Enlightenment thought that greed could be empowered and then harnessed to make everyone better....what they did not understand is that greed is too big a tiger for most people to tame, which is why our ancestors tended to always warn about the dangers of greed.
    Not necessarily disputing what you're saying. I just don't care about ethics or spiritual transformations. All about politics and laws. Let the greedy man collect wealth--just pay your taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Obama worked for the oligarchs. It's that simple.
    Obama didn't know what was going on, and apparently really didn't care. He was known to miss many briefings, meetings, and not bother to read the "cliff notes" version of those meetings later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Not necessarily disputing what you're saying. I just don't care about ethics or spiritual transformations. All about politics and laws. Let the greedy man collect wealth--just pay your taxes.
    Taxes which a lot of times should be in the 60%-80% range....they used to be.....till the wealthy corrupted government and got the rates vastly lowered.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Huge disparities in income and wealth translate into comparable disparities in political influence. To see how this works, let’s look at a fairly recent example: the budgetary Grand Bargain that almost happened in 2011.

    Both the Obama administration and Republicans were staking out positions that flew in the face of public desires. A large majority has consistently wanted to see Social Security benefits expanded, not cut. A comparably large majority has consistently said that upper-income Americans pay too little, not too much, in taxes.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/01/o...gtype=Homepage

    For those who think Obama is a hero of the Democratic Party. He was far closer to Republicans on issues that mattered: Helping the Upper Class stay in power.
    LIKE THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL SEEKING TO REMOVE POLICE PROTECTION FOR THE CITIZENS, WHILE ENJOYING THEIR OWN PERSONAL, PRIVATE ARMED-SECURITY, AND FORCING THOSE SAME TAXPAYERS TO PAY FOR IT???


    LIKE THAT???

    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


    De Oppresso Liber

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Obama didn't know what was going on, and apparently really didn't care. He was known to miss many briefings, meetings, and not bother to read the "cliff notes" version of those meetings later.
    ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Taxes which a lot of times should be in the 60%-80% range....they used to be.....till the wealthy corrupted government and got the rates vastly lowered.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    LIKE THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL SEEKING TO REMOVE POLICE PROTECTION FOR THE CITIZENS, WHILE ENJOYING THEIR OWN PERSONAL, PRIVATE ARMED-SECURITY, AND FORCING THOSE SAME TAXPAYERS TO PAY FOR IT???


    LIKE THAT???

    Stay on topic. This isn't the complaint department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    If you looked at his background carefully--something both he and his willing accomplices in the MSM hid as much as they could--you'd have known the guy was an empty suit, all hat no cattle, all talk no action.

    Obama made a good politician but he was an incompetent leader and manager and he had the track record to prove it.
    Obama had very little track record, he was a complete roll of the dice.....but he said the right things.....and he was fresh....there was reason to hope that he was not a Swamp Creature.

    Obama's two main problems are that he is no where near as smart as he seems to think he is....and he is an extremely light worker.
    This illegal illegitimate regime that runs America is at fault...not me.... they do not represent me and I have long objected to their crimes against humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    how long have you been this addled?
    You have no idea of politics / political philosophy- except "rich are bad"

    You gotta be a brainwashed millennial amiright?
    He didn't mean that rich are bad, dumbass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Why Do the Rich Have So Much Power?
    Because we elect politicians that sell us out. It is the politicians responsibility to guard the Hen House, to be the moral guardian.

    Trump can't be bought.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    More like it is one of the most common corrupt practices of big government.
    No, government came about in the decline of regional tyrants as it was far easier to seize people's wealth voluntarily than at the point of a spear/sword/etc.
    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
    The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.

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