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    Default Arizona 'COVID Death Panels' Formed - System Becoming Overwhelmed

    It's getting ugly now. We are rapidly reaching a worst-case scenario.

    "Gov. Doug Ducey and Dr. Cara M. Christ, director for the Arizona Department of Health Services, made it all sound civilized and even non-threatening.

    They announced that hospitals dealing with the enormous spike in COVID-19 cases could now activate what they called “crisis care standards.”

    That’s the polite version.

    In simple terms, these are “death panels.”

    It’s ugly. It’s true.

    Essentially, the standards allow hospitals to create a kind of scorecard for COVID-19 patients when the resources to treat them are limited. It protects health-care workers from liability when they’re put in a position to decide which patient gets treatment and which … doesn’t."

    Be honest, 'crisis care standards' are code for COVID-19 death panels

    Can you say: "We opened up too soon?"
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    At least Doug Ducey is ordering another shutdown.

    Some governors are downplaying everything and keeping the state open.

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    Hello tff,

    Quote Originally Posted by tff View Post
    At least Doug Ducey is ordering another shutdown.

    Some governors are downplaying everything and keeping the state open.
    All of our elected leaders need to take this seriously and prioritize lives over money.
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    The source of the virus from China is China. They lied about the source and their number of fatalities. They would not share data with our health professionals that might have mitigated their virus from China. They nailed shut the doors of those with the virus from China They did not stop flights out of China and the virus from China spread around the world.

    China must be held accountable for the hundreds of thousands of deaths and the economic loss around the world.

    Count on the far left loon apologists to defend China and falsely blame it on our great president whose closure of flights from China saved countless lives.

    The president is following the advice of the health professionals and the states are opening their economies following the guidelines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    It's getting ugly now. We are rapidly reaching a worst-case scenario.

    "Gov. Doug Ducey and Dr. Cara M. Christ, director for the Arizona Department of Health Services, made it all sound civilized and even non-threatening.

    They announced that hospitals dealing with the enormous spike in COVID-19 cases could now activate what they called “crisis care standards.”

    That’s the polite version.

    In simple terms, these are “death panels.”

    It’s ugly. It’s true.

    Essentially, the standards allow hospitals to create a kind of scorecard for COVID-19 patients when the resources to treat them are limited. It protects health-care workers from liability when they’re put in a position to decide which patient gets treatment and which … doesn’t."

    Be honest, 'crisis care standards' are code for COVID-19 death panels

    Can you say: "We opened up too soon?"
    Can we say transfer patients to another facility lol?
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    Hello Darth,

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Can we say transfer patients to another facility lol?
    Just as easily as we can say it should never have gotten this bad because we opened up too soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post
    The source of the virus from China is China. They lied about the source and their number of fatalities. They would not share data with our health professionals that might have mitigated their virus from China. They nailed shut the doors of those with the virus from China They did not stop flights out of China and the virus from China spread around the world.

    China must be held accountable for the hundreds of thousands of deaths and the economic loss around the world.

    Count on the far left loon apologists to defend China and falsely blame it on our great president whose closure of flights from China saved countless lives.

    The president is following the advice of the health professionals and the states are opening their economies following the guidelines.
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    Hello Mr.Mason,

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Mason View Post
    Why don't you go to Europe?
    Because they won't let American 's in!
    Europe cannot afford to allow Americans to visit there.

    They have had enough pandemic spread to be so reckless.

    And they probably think Americans refuse to wear masks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Mr.Mason,



    Europe cannot afford to allow Americans to visit there.

    They have had enough pandemic spread to be so reckless.

    And they probably think Americans refuse to wear masks.
    Americans do refuse to wear mask,that's why it's
    spreading so fast,especially young people
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    Hello Mr.Mason,

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Mason View Post
    Americans do refuse to wear mask,that's why it's
    spreading so fast,especially young people
    Actually, most Americans wear masks when it gets serious. The challenge is to get them to do it before it reaches crisis stage in their region. Doing it is what prevents the worst case from happening, but they are having trouble putting together 2+2 as they look for the macho way out of compliance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Mr.Mason,



    Actually, most Americans wear masks when it gets serious. The challenge is to get them to do it before it reaches crisis stage in their region. Doing it is what prevents the worst case from happening, but they are having trouble putting together 2+2 as the look for the macho way out of compliance.
    I see fewer and fewer people wearing mask here,especially young people
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    Hello Mr.Mason,

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Mason View Post
    I see fewer and fewer people wearing mask here,especially young people
    They'll grumble and grouse, throw a hissy fit.

    Then grab a mask, and that's the end of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Mr.Mason,



    They'll grumble and grouse, throw a hissy fit.

    Then grab a mask, and that's the end of it.
    Only if made mandatory
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    When Pro-Trump governors listen to Trump instead of expert medical professionals, this is what you can expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tff View Post
    At least Doug Ducey is ordering another shutdown.

    Some governors are downplaying everything and keeping the state open.
    It’s too bad so many of his constituents had to get sick for him to be responsible.

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