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Thread: For 2,000 years Jews have rejected the Christian idea of Jesus as messiah. Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParachuteAdams View Post
    He was a Jewish carpenter and fisherman who founded Christianity.
    Founding Christianity on the fabricated misnomer of forgiveness after being killed as the supposedly son of God messiah seems more like plausibility of finding a quark in a light year squared with pseudo science .

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    Man can't thrive on bread alone. He needs wine.
    He obviously wasn't a good politician.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    But those Jews who accepted Jesus were a very small minority. Most Jews, then and now, don't believe he was the messiah.
    What have the numbers (which we can't know) to do with it? The early Christians were all Jews, and they supposed Jesus must be the Messiah. It was a possible explanation for what they believed to have happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    What have the numbers (which we can't know) to do with it? The early Christians were all Jews, and they supposed Jesus must be the Messiah. It was a possible explanation for what they believed to have happened.
    That "supposed Jesus must be the Messiah" must be the precedent for this Christian Nation's SCOTUS one nation under God with equal justice under fabricated misnomer as that's what they believe no matter how many US Constitutions, old glories, old testaments & absentee voting ballots are stolen & burned just as the numbers of dead Jews in history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    What have the numbers (which we can't know) to do with it? The early Christians were all Jews, and they supposed Jesus must be the Messiah. It was a possible explanation for what they believed to have happened.
    The fact that very few Jews became Christian means that the vast majority of Jews believe Jesus didn't line up with the Jewish teachings. Since Jews understand Judaism and Jewish prophecy more than other ethnicities, this is a blow against Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    The fact that very few Jews became Christian means that the vast majority of Jews believe Jesus didn't line up with the Jewish teachings. Since Jews understand Judaism and Jewish prophecy more than other ethnicities, this is a blow against Christianity.
    I can't see why, but, then, I don't see any Christianity in the Old Testament. New beliefs have to start somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    I can't see why, but, then, I don't see any Christianity in the Old Testament. New beliefs have to start somewhere.
    So with this COVID 19 culling of the gene pool does that "supposed Jesus must be the Messiah" must be the precedent for this Christian Nation's SCOTUS one nation under God with equal justice under fabricated misnomer as that's what they believe no matter how many US Constitutions, old glories, old testaments & absentee voting ballots are stolen & burned just as the numbers of dead Jews in history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:

    Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.
    Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.
    Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.
    Jewish belief is based on national revelation.
    But first, some background: What exactly is the Messiah?

    The word "Messiah" is an English rendering of the Hebrew word Mashiach, which means "anointed." It usually refers to a person initiated into God's service by being anointed with oil. (Exodus 29:7, 1-Kings 1:39, 2-Kings 9:3)

    (1) Jesus Did Not Fulfill the Messianic Prophecies
    What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? One of the central themes of biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God. (Isaiah 2:1-4, 32:15-18, 60:15-18; Zephaniah 3:9; Hosea 2:20-22; Amos 9:13-15; Micah 4:1-4; Zechariah 8:23, 14:9; Jeremiah 31:33-34)

    Specifically, the Bible says he will:

    Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
    Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
    Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
    Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world – on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).
    If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah.

    Because no one has ever fulfilled the Bible's description of this future King, Jews still await the coming of the Messiah. All past Messianic claimants, including Jesus of Nazareth, Bar Cochba and Shabbtai Tzvi have been rejected.

    Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming. Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright; in the Bible no concept of a second coming exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Jesus loves you. Jesus died for your sins.
    So as devout Christians you love killing others while claiming Jesus loves your narcissism with that communism of Christianity of killing others that is only sin which you're already been forgiven for....

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltydancin View Post
    So as devout Christians you love killing others while claiming Jesus loves your narcissism with that communism of Christianity of killing others that is only sin which you're already been forgiven for....
    Jesus loves you, but I am a sinner. I assert that you are a rotten low down commie atheist.
    The Truth Does Not Need To Be Supported With Censorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Jesus loves you, but I am a sinner. I assert that you are a rotten low down commie atheist.
    That suicidal Christiananality pedophilia super ego mentality master race sociopsychopathilogical human farming diatribe, cross conditioned way beyond therapy in one nation under God......

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    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    So Jews for Jesus are choosing as devout Christians killing others while claiming Jesus loves their narcissism with that communism of Christianity of killing others which is only sin that they've already been forgiven for; only history states the Romans killed the fabricated misnomer "Jesus the Christ" immaculate conception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltydancin View Post
    So Jews for Jesus are choosing as devout Christians killing others while claiming Jesus loves their narcissism with that communism of Christianity of killing others which is only sin that they've already been forgiven for; only history states the Romans killed the fabricated misnomer "Jesus the Christ" immaculate conception.
    Why don't you go to their web page & make an inquiry, tell them Bill sent you......
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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