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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Who should pay for every science department to do research? Private companies?
    Private companies do hire scientists. Apparently you weren't aware of that.

    Science isn't scientists. It isn't even people at all. It is just a set of falsifiable theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    To many scientists care more about their careers having big paydays than they do science, so they line up to work on what ever pays the best, regardless of why the money is being handed out. Bret and Heather talk about this when they say that Science has been corrupted by market forces, that market ideology is being used to decide what science works on when it has no place here. Furthermore everyone had to understand that this was a bad idea, not enough cared.

    Once they know what is wanted in return for their pay and esteem they tend to try to provide it, so that they can get more of that.

    "Science" has all to often become quackery, very dishonest, the opposite of truth as science is.
    Bingo.

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    I guess I should have predicted it - but I didn't really think this thread would become an exercise in conservatives really arguing against science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    you're a troll.
    Mantra 1. No argument presented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Private companies do hire scientists. Apparently you weren't aware of that.

    Science isn't scientists. It isn't even people at all. It is just a set of falsifiable theories.
    zzzzzzzzzz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Buzzword fallacy. A 'fact' is not a 'proof' nor a 'Universal Truth'. Learn what a 'fact' is. Facts exist in fiction too, you know.
    One of our airline captains was also a check airman. No one liked being on a check ride with this guy. He'd spout inane but factual statements like how many rivets were on each elevator trim tab and ask similarly inane questions during a check ride. One of our older Captains quickly tired of this bullshit, turned around and said "Rich, you need to get your head out of your books and go home before somebody else starts fucking your wife."
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BartenderElite View Post
    I guess I should have predicted it - but I didn't really think this thread would become an exercise in conservatives really arguing against science.
    Amazing. Mention science and conservatives will tell you it's all fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Mathematics is not science.

    Science is an open functional system. It has no proofs and cannot predict by itself. Mathematics is a closed functional system. With that comes the power of the proof, and the power of prediction.

    Only when a theory of science is transcribed into a closed functional system (usually mathematics), does the theory gain the power of prediction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Amazing. Mention science and conservatives will tell you it's all fake.
    Those who are paying attention and are also honest will tell you that science is now very corrupt, and that we should fix it, before it is too late, and that it might be already as the Maoist Mobs are working hard to Defund Stem.

    Wokeism is a religion, science is a threat to that religion, so science must be hobbled.
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

    DARK AGES SUCK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Those who are paying attention and are also honest will tell you that science is now very corrupt, and that we should fix it, before it is too late, and that it might be already as the Maoist Mobs are working hard to Defund Stem.

    Wokeism is a religion, science is a threat to that religion, so science must be hobbled.

    you're nuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    you're nuts
    I am hyper educated, far ahead of the curve, which looks nuts to those who have no clue what is going on.
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Reversal fallacy. Philosophy IS considering something philosophically, not the other way around.
    ???.....you do realize you said exactly the same thing I said.......right?......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    I am hyper educated, far ahead of the curve, which looks nuts to those who have no clue what is going on.
    Let me guess. You're the intellectual amongst the high school dropouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post

    Philosophy defines 'science', what it is, and why it is defined the way it is. It also defines 'religion' and why it is defined the way it is.
    Philosophy also defines 'real' and 'reality' and why it is defined the way they are.
    now you understand......thank you for agreeing with me.......you have just spoken of the philosophy of science, the philosophy of religion, and the philosophy of reality....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    There is no such thing as 'philosophy of history' either.
    /bitchslap.....
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_history

    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/history/#HegHis

    https://www.philosophybasics.com/bra...f_history.html
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