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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Masks stop the droplets which carry viruses like Covid-19.
    Covid-19 is an airborne virus. Masks do not stop a virus.
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    That is just a fact.
    Buzzword fallacy. 'Fact' does not means 'proof' or 'Universal Truth'. It is also not a fact. It is an argument.
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    How effective are they?
    None at all. Masks don't stop a virus.
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    We do not know.
    We do know. See the N95 specifications.
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    We know the countries that have won this battle with Covid-19 have used masks, social distancing, testing, contact tracing, and lockdowns.
    Base rate fallacy.
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    Republicans claim each one of these are completely useless,
    Masks do not stop a virus.
    6 feet does not stop a virus.
    Testing does not cure Covid-19.
    Contact tracing can be useful, but not at the expense of privacy.
    Shutting down the economy is not necessary. There is no epidemic, pandemic, or even a situation. Less the 1% of the population is infected with Covid-19.
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    but some of these must be working for the successes other countries have seen to have happened.
    Base rate fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Covid-19 is an airborne virus. Masks do not stop a virus.

    Buzzword fallacy. 'Fact' does not means 'proof' or 'Universal Truth'. It is also not a fact. It is an argument.

    None at all. Masks don't stop a virus.

    We do know. See the N95 specifications.

    Base rate fallacy.

    Masks do not stop a virus.
    6 feet does not stop a virus.
    Testing does not cure Covid-19.
    Contact tracing can be useful, but not at the expense of privacy.
    Shutting down the economy is not necessary. There is no epidemic, pandemic, or even a situation. Less the 1% of the population is infected with Covid-19.

    Base rate fallacy.
    Well, COVID is a respiratory virus that can be transmitted via airborne droplets or from contact with contaminated surfaces [fomites] lol.

    It’s the latter aspect that gets over looked by the mask Karens. For example, when Biden takes his mask off while he’s walking up to the podium, stuffs it in his pocket and then proceeds waller all over the podium with his contaminated hands—he just defeated the whole purpose of wearing the mask.

    So the next person up at the podium gets all of Biden’s nasty COVID bugs all over their hands: person’s hands go to their face—bingo, the COVID jumps the next victim.

    All pathogens are opportunistic little critters and they will use whatever means they that are made available to them. They should go back to stressing hand washing instead of obsessing over masks.

    But hand washing is apolitical and you can’t virtue signal with it, so here we are.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Covid-19 is an airborne virus. Masks do not stop a virus.
    Isn't it amazing how all the experts in the world are wrong, but Night is right... Without any evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Well, COVID is a respiratory virus that can be transmitted via airborne droplets or from contact with contaminated surfaces [fomites] lol.
    Nope. Covid-19 can survive intact for several hours in dry air. It's an airborne virus.
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    It’s the latter aspect that gets over looked by the mask Karens. For example, when Biden takes his mask off while he’s walking up to the podium, stuffs it in his pocket and then proceeds waller all over the podium with his contaminated hands—he just defeated the whole purpose of wearing the mask.
    Masks do not stop a virus.
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    So the next person up at the podium gets all of Biden’s nasty COVID bugs all over their hands: person’s hands go to their face—bingo, the COVID jumps the next victim.
    Assuming Biden is infected. Why do you think he is?
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    All pathogens are opportunistic little critters and they will use whatever means they that are made available to them. They should go back to stressing hand washing instead of obsessing over masks.
    Washing your hands is always a good idea, especially after using the restroom or before handling food. That's why State health departments set up rules about this in restaurants.
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    But hand washing is apolitical and you can’t virtue signal with it, so here we are.
    Here we are. It's election season. I knew it would be a crazy one, as polarized as the electorate is these days, but I never expected this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    Isn't it amazing how all the experts in the world are wrong, but Night is right... Without any evidence.
    See the N95 specifications, dumbass. You don't get to speak for 'all the experts' in the world. You only get to speak for you. Define 'expert'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Nope. Covid-19 can survive intact for several hours in dry air. It's an airborne virus.

    Masks do not stop a virus.

    Assuming Biden is infected. Why do you think he is?

    Washing your hands is always a good idea, especially after using the restroom or before handling food. That's why State health departments set up rules about this in restaurants.

    Here we are. It's election season. I knew it would be a crazy one, as polarized as the electorate is these days, but I never expected this.
    You’re conflating a route of transmission with where a viral infection seeds.

    I know the odds Biden was transmitting COVID at that instant are extremely minimal.

    2020, yes it’s one for the books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Studying sociology and/or human psychology may cause you to rethink that conclusion.
    I'm basing it on history. Look at how many authoritarian regimes have risen to power and killed millions (Nazis, Maoists, Soviets, etc.).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tff View Post
    Definitely not. The governors are all about the business owners who are sending them money.
    Indeed. This is why they play favorites with big business while still restricting small businesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    The borders are closed. Almost no one is getting in or out. As other countries tentatively open their borders, they are specifically excluding the USA, because we are collapsing. How much stricter can we get? It took a three week battle to get a coworker of mine back into the USA from Canada. He is an American citizen, and we had the Department of Commerce on our side, and it still was almost impossible.

    As for screening, other countries are doing it at their borders. They used to have tests that took four hours, but now are getting it below an hour. Why can't we keep up with other countries?
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-ramp...-restrictions/

    Legally, that might be true that the borders are tightly controlled, but there are still a lot of illegal crossings going on, which is why our officials have been very busy.

    As for why we can't keep up, the FDA is stricter about approving tests than the equivalent agencies of other countries. If we could get the FDA to operate more like these other agencies, then we would have access to more tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    Legally, that might be true that the borders are tightly controlled, but there are still a lot of illegal crossings going on, which is why our officials have been very busy.
    The numbers of people illegally entering the USA have been much lower for well over a decade. The borders are extremely boring these days. There has been over a decade of net zero illegal migration from Mexico. Most of the people who were crossing the border were not illegally entering. They were Central Americans(not Mexicans) who crossed the border, not to illegally enter, but to legally apply for asylum.

    To put all this into perspective, you are talking about 20,000 in a month, when in the 80s they were talking about 20,000 in a day. You are talking about people lining up to apply for asylum, when in the 80s they were talking about people disappearing into America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    As for why we can't keep up, the FDA is stricter about approving tests than the equivalent agencies of other countries. If we could get the FDA to operate more like these other agencies, then we would have access to more tests.
    The FDA is allowing emergency authorization. Most foreign kits have been authorized. If you want to meet with trump, they can test you in less than four hours. The problem is foreign countries do not want to sell us many kits, and America's ability to make kits is very poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    The numbers of people illegally entering the USA have been much lower for well over a decade. The borders are extremely boring these days. There has been over a decade of net zero illegal migration from Mexico. Most of the people who were crossing the border were not illegally entering. They were Central Americans(not Mexicans) who crossed the border, not to illegally enter, but to legally apply for asylum.

    To put all this into perspective, you are talking about 20,000 in a month, when in the 80s they were talking about 20,000 in a day. You are talking about people lining up to apply for asylum, when in the 80s they were talking about people disappearing into America.
    It's not boring in terms of cartels.

    Quote Originally Posted by Walt View Post
    The FDA is allowing emergency authorization. Most foreign kits have been authorized. If you want to meet with trump, they can test you in less than four hours. The problem is foreign countries do not want to sell us many kits, and America's ability to make kits is very poor.
    We don't lack the ability to make tests. We just chose to outsource a lot of production to other countries for everything from tests to PPE.

    The globalist economic policies of the 90s might have resulted in short term gains, but the long term costs have been dramatic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    I'm basing it on history. Look at how many authoritarian regimes have risen to power and killed millions (Nazis, Maoists, Soviets, etc.).
    History is a great teacher, but it's important to understand both what happened and why.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymoose View Post
    True that. I now opt for ordering groceries online and pickup . Anyone who doesn't do that or get their groceries delivered is virtue signalling by wearing a dirty mask.
    Bullshit. Virtue signaling is wearing my ASPCA tee shirt in public. Wearing a mask is a virtuous act to protect others and oneself.
    Many people like to see their food before they purchase it, not just take whatever the grocer throws in the bag.

    One thing that helps is to purchase groceries less frequently and buy more. That reduces contact. And of course, wear a mask.
    A dirty one has got to be better than none.

    Of course your team's stock answer is to say any good deed is a signal. Probably not, but what the hell.
    It sure beats doing bad. You fucks are so hateful and cynical if Batman stops a bank robbery you sneer and say he is virtue signaling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Bullshit. Virtue signaling is wearing my ASPCA tee shirt in public. Wearing a mask is a virtuous act to protect others and oneself.
    Many people like to see their food before they purchase it, not just take whatever the grocer throws in the bag.

    One thing that helps is to purchase groceries less frequently and buy more. That reduces contact. And of course, wear a mask.
    A dirty one has got to be better than none.
    And wearing dirty underwear over your face is actually more sanitary than wearing a dirty mask. No exaggeration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woko Haram View Post
    We don't lack the ability to make tests. We just chose to outsource a lot of production to other countries for everything from tests to PPE.

    The globalist economic policies of the 90s might have resulted in short term gains, but the long term costs have been dramatic.
    I just look at Italy. Yes, they started out in disarray, like us, but ended up marshaling their efforts and fighting back against the disease. It is pathetic that we are not as organized as Italy. ITALY!!!

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