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    imho .. of course

    Football (American)

    Jim Brown
    Otto Graham
    Johnny Unitas
    Gale Sayers
    Dick Buktus
    Lawrence Taylor
    Joe Montana
    Jim Rice
    Reggie White
    Tom Brady

    Baseball

    Babe Ruth
    Lou Gehrig
    Walter Johnson
    Ted Williams
    Joe Dimaggio
    Willie Mays
    Hank Aaron
    Micky Mantle
    Sandy Koufax
    Bob Gibson
    Roger Clemens
    Barry Bonds (reluctantly)
    Randy Johnson

    Basketball

    Wilt Chamberlain
    Bill Russell
    Oscar Robertson
    Jerry West
    Kareem Jabbar
    Dr. J
    Moses Malone
    Magic Johnson
    Larry Bird
    Shaq
    and soon to be Dwane Wade


    Boxing

    Jim Jeffries
    Jack Johnson
    Jack Dempsey
    Joe Louis
    Muhammad Ali
    Rocky Marciano
    Jim Corbett
    Sugar Ray Robinson (WW)
    Sugar Ray Leonard (WW)
    Roberto Duran (LW)
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    Gotta give a plug for the hometown heroes... John Elway.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles
    Gotta give a plug for the hometown heroes... John Elway.

    I wont agrue Elway .. not at all ..... greatest finish to a career ..ever !
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    You left out Michael Jordan.

    Not only the greatest basketball player ever, but FAR more influential and famous than 99% of the other guys on your list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress
    You left out Michael Jordan.

    Not only the greatest basketball player ever, but FAR more influential and famous than 99% of the other guys on your list.

    I know.. I wanted to see who would be the first to catch it .... 20 more grind points for you Cypress!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress
    You left out Michael Jordan.

    Not only the greatest basketball player ever, but FAR more influential and famous than 99% of the other guys on your list.

    But ... Wilt and Bill were pretty influential as well ...
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    I'd put in the only 3 boxers to win 3 Olympic golds- Teofilo Stevenson (who likely would have won a 4th but for the boycott of LA) and Felix Savon, from Cuba, together with Laszlo Papp from Hungary.

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    Football (American)

    Joe Montana
    Jim Rice
    Jim Brown
    Lawrence Taylor
    Johnny Unitas
    Reggie White
    Tom Brady

    Baseball

    Babe Ruth
    Mark Mgwire
    Ted Williams
    Joe Dimaggio
    Hank Aaron
    Micky Mantle
    Barry Bonds
    Roger Clemens
    Basketball
    Jordon
    Bill Russell
    Magic Johnson
    Larry Bird
    Shaq
    Kareem Jabbar
    Dr. J
    Moses Malone


    Boxing
    Muhammad Ali
    Rocky Marciano
    Jack Dempsey
    Joe Louis
    Ray Mancini
    Livingston Bramble
    Sugar Ray Robinson (WW)
    Sugar Ray Leonard (WW)
    Roberto Duran (LW)
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    Quote Originally Posted by klaatu
    But ... Wilt and Bill were pretty influential as well ...
    Russel and Chamberlin were surrounded by talent.

    Jordan was a one-man show. He carried the Bulls to six championships. The bulls supporting talent was way over rated.

    Look at how well the allegedly "awesome" scottie pippen fared, without jordon in the mix.

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    Pete Maravich was another one I missed . ....

    Russell had an Allstar team around him.... that much is for sure. Wilt ... in his 2 Championship years.... made the players around him much, much better ....

    One of the big myths about Wilt ... many claim his dominance was due to the era that he played in .. because of his height he had a tremendous advantage ..., not true. If it were, these 7ft 7 guys that come around would have a greater height advantage ...and none of them dominate the way Wilt did, dont even come close, not one iota. There were gifted Centers around in his day that stood 6ft 10, 6ft 11, Nate Thurmand and Walt Bellemy come to mind. Wilt was a great athlete ....
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    No Jim Thorpe? You gotta have Thorpe in there!

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    I was thinking the same thing, Dave. Jim Thorpe was a man among boys.

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    Who is Jim Rice? You mean Jerry?

    You need an offensive lineman, so Anthony Munoz.

    Baseball add NOLAN RYAN (how the hell can you miss that one), Johnny Bench, Pete Rose, Cy Young, Satchel Paige, Jackie Robinson, Ty Cobb.

    Boxers Larry Holmes and George Foreman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield
    Who is Jim Rice? You mean Jerry?

    You need an offensive lineman, so Anthony Munoz.

    Baseball add NOLAN RYAN (how the hell can you miss that one), Johnny Bench, Pete Rose, Cy Young, Satchel Paige, Jackie Robinson, Ty Cobb.

    Boxers Larry Holmes and George Foreman.

    Damn... , I meant Jerry alright ... good catch....

    No argument with Munoz ...


    Im glad you brought up Nolan Ryan .. a great Pitcher no doubt.. but I would not include him amongst my alltime top 10.. or maybe even 15. This is why ... now he did something no other Pitcher ever did striking out over 5700 and throwing 7 no hitters.. that alone puts him in the Hall of Fame.
    And his longevity was remarkable-- 27 years! But his winning percentage was not impressive... 324-292 with only 2 20 win seasons in which he also lost 16.. You cant blame all of it on Pitching for bad teams.. he pitched for many good teams. Compare him to Tom Seaver who pitched during the same era ... Tom went 311-205 in 20 years with 5 20 win seasons. Or Jim Palmer who went 268-152 in 19 years with 6 season of 20 or more wins.
    In my opinion there are several Pitchers from his era that I would rate higher ... Tom Seaver, Jim Palmer, Catfish Hunter, Steve Carlton and Fergie Jenkins. Fergie Jenkins is a real good example of what I am talking about... 7 time 20 game winner, 6 were with a perrenial celler dweller club.
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