Doc Dutch (06-10-2020), Guno צְבִי (06-17-2020), Iolo/Penderyn (06-09-2020), signalmankenneth (06-09-2020), Trumpet (06-08-2020)
We never recovered from the Civil War.
The official war ended, and then immediately the fight went into a social struggle to repress blacks and glorify the Confederacy. That has never ended, and even though the people who began this struggle are all dead, we are still stuck with the hatred which was hatched then in an effort to justify southern slavery and the decision to launch into a totally needless, hurtful, and deadly war over nothing but stupid hatred. Racism is a stain that has marred the American cause of freedom and human rights.
Now we have our opportunity to forward our complete recovery from the Civil War.
And it came in the strangest way.
An oppressive hateful president, an insensitive cop, a black victim of police brutality.
This has become a moment.
It has become a movement. This movement has spread far beyond the American borders. There are Floyd protests all over the WORLD!
It is a chance to heal.
Last edited by PoliTalker; 06-08-2020 at 12:53 PM.
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Doc Dutch (06-10-2020), Guno צְבִי (06-17-2020), Iolo/Penderyn (06-09-2020), signalmankenneth (06-09-2020), Trumpet (06-08-2020)
Don't get your hopes up too high. We have had lots of "watershed moments" happen and fade away. American power is still bigoted. Those on top profit from holding blacks down. They are cheap labor just like slaves were. Their healthcare and education are cheap. You can make profit by putting them in prison. They pay fines, bail, court costs, and are paying for the justice and police systems.
Guno צְבִי (06-17-2020), PoliTalker (06-08-2020), TTQ64 (06-08-2020)
Cancel 2020.2 (06-08-2020)
Heal. I thought the election of Obama was the final piece of the puzzle. I doubt anything really changes. Cops will continue to kill whites that resist arrest at about a 25% higher rate than blacks but the death of blacks will continue to garner all the publicity. IMO.
Cancel 2020.2 (06-08-2020)
Question: What does a "complete recovery from the Civil War" entail? What are the specifics of that?
Callinectes (06-22-2020)
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Hello anonymoose,
Thanks for the spelling correction. OP edited.
I also had high hopes that Obama would improve the situation, but he did not want race relations to be his legacy. He never thought of himself as the first Black President. He had other ambitions. His goals were to fix healthcare, education and energy production. Big ambitions. The first one would consume his presidency and cost him so much political capital that it allowed a huge resurgence of the right, and that allowed reapportionment to be controlled by Republicans, which flipped the advantage toward them. He was never able to get to the other two goals.
His refusal to address racial disparity, coupled with anger from the right over the basic fact that a Black Man had been elected President, actually ended up causing a resurgence of racism.
He dabbled with race relations when Louis Gates was accosted, (The Beer Summit,) but he was mocked for it. I think that was the moment he decided such efforts were counterproductive to his goals.
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We have mismanaged our way to being on the cusp of the next Civil War.....
The New Chinese Empire says thanks!
I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.
DARK AGES SUCK!
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