Movement to defund police gains 'unprecedented' support across US

[anatta]

The movement to defund the police is gaining significant support across America, including from elected leaders, as protests over the killing of George Floyd sweep the nation.

For years, activists have pushed US cities and states to cut law enforcement budgets amid a dramatic rise in spending on police and prisons while funding for vital social services has shrunk or disappeared altogether.

Government officials have long dismissed the idea as a leftist fantasy, but the recent unrest and massive budget shortfalls from the Covid-19 crisis appear to have inspired more mainstream recognition of the central arguments behind defunding.

“To see legislators who aren’t even necessarily on the left supporting at least a significant decrease in New York police department [NYPD] funding is really very encouraging,” Julia Salazar, a New York state senator and Democratic socialist, told the Guardian on Tuesday. “It feels a little bit surreal.”

Floyd’s death on camera in Minneapolis, advocates say, was a powerful demonstration that police reform efforts of the last half-decade have failed to stop racist policing and killings. Meanwhile, the striking visuals of enormous, militarized and at times violent police forces responding to peaceful protests have led some politicians to question whether police really need this much money and firepower.
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Community groups advocating for defunding have put forward differing strategies, some merely opposing police budget increases, others advocating mass reductions, and some fighting for full defunding as a step toward abolishing police forces. Some initiatives are tied to the fight to close prisons. All are pushing for a reinvestment of those dollars in services.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-floyd-budgets

[T. A. Gardner]

Question:

What would replace them? Are you willing to do without any legal authorities to intervene in criminal matters? Are you willing to have to defend yourself and property at all times?

After all, that's what defunding the police would result in.

[Irish]

The movement to defund the police is gaining significant support across America, including from elected leaders, as protests over the killing of George Floyd sweep the nation.

For years, activists have pushed US cities and states to cut law enforcement budgets amid a dramatic rise in spending on police and prisons while funding for vital social services has shrunk or disappeared altogether.

Government officials have long dismissed the idea as a leftist fantasy, but the recent unrest and massive budget shortfalls from the Covid-19 crisis appear to have inspired more mainstream recognition of the central arguments behind defunding.

“To see legislators who aren’t even necessarily on the left supporting at least a significant decrease in New York police department [NYPD] funding is really very encouraging,” Julia Salazar, a New York state senator and Democratic socialist, told the Guardian on Tuesday. “It feels a little bit surreal.”

Floyd’s death on camera in Minneapolis, advocates say, was a powerful demonstration that police reform efforts of the last half-decade have failed to stop racist policing and killings. Meanwhile, the striking visuals of enormous, militarized and at times violent police forces responding to peaceful protests have led some politicians to question whether police really need this much money and firepower.
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Community groups advocating for defunding have put forward differing strategies, some merely opposing police budget increases, others advocating mass reductions, and some fighting for full defunding as a step toward abolishing police forces. Some initiatives are tied to the fight to close prisons. All are pushing for a reinvestment of those dollars in services.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-floyd-budgets

So who is going to enforce laws? Who is going to keep the peace?

God people are fucking morons.

So who do these clowns expect to enforce laws? Antifa? Gangs?

[PostmodernProphet]

wtf?......defund police......are they nuts?.....

[Irish]

This proves my point that this has nothing to do with George Floyd. This was an insurrection aimed at toppling a democratic government.

How do you further topple a Republic? Get rid of the thin blue line keeping the peace. Have total anarchy.

What can you do then? Call for a totalitarian communist government to take over.

[anatta]

wtf?......defund police......are they nuts?.....

it's becoming MS..

LA Mayor Slashes LAPD Budget As Calls To ‘Defund Police’ Slowly Pick Up Steam
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbre.../#7cc71ea91ba3

[Stretch]

From Bama & Hillbag's favorite sjw, Alinski.

8. "Keep the pressure on."
9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."
10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."
11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside."

[Mott the Hoople]

Question:

What would replace them? Are you willing to do without any legal authorities to intervene in criminal matters? Are you willing to have to defend yourself and property at all times?

After all, that's what defunding the police would result in.

Maybe we don’t need so many. Who the fuck wants to live in a police state? We have 35,000 cops in Columbus. That’s one cop for every 24 persons. That’s far too many.

[ThatOwlWoman]

Maybe we don’t need so many. Who the fuck wants to live in a police state? We have 35,000 cops in Columbus. That’s one cop for every 24 persons. That’s far too many.

Holy crap. Yeah, that's a LOT. I wonder if the defunding has to do with their military-type gear and armor and vehicles?

[Mott the Hoople]

wtf?......defund police......are they nuts?.....

No...that be you. Why do we need so many fucking cops? We have a higher proportion of cops to the general population of any industrialized nation in the world and the most prisoners and prisons. Who the fuck is serving whom? I’d wager that if we cut our police force in half in Cbus not only would we still have more than enough officers to serve and protect I’d wager crime rates would drop dramatically.

[Mott the Hoople]

Holy crap. Yeah, that's a LOT. I wonder if the defunding has to do with their military-type gear and armor and vehicles?

That’s a serious problem too. The militarization of our police is the primary cause of excessive use of force and exacerbates the racial problem.

[AProudLefty]

Some people want to improve the law enforcement services.

The far-right: "OH MY GAWD! THEY WANT TO GET RID OF THE ENTIRE POLICE FORCE!"

[signalmankenneth]

The movement to defund the police is gaining significant support across America, including from elected leaders, as protests over the killing of George Floyd sweep the nation.

For years, activists have pushed US cities and states to cut law enforcement budgets amid a dramatic rise in spending on police and prisons while funding for vital social services has shrunk or disappeared altogether.

Government officials have long dismissed the idea as a leftist fantasy, but the recent unrest and massive budget shortfalls from the Covid-19 crisis appear to have inspired more mainstream recognition of the central arguments behind defunding.

“To see legislators who aren’t even necessarily on the left supporting at least a significant decrease in New York police department [NYPD] funding is really very encouraging,” Julia Salazar, a New York state senator and Democratic socialist, told the Guardian on Tuesday. “It feels a little bit surreal.”

Floyd’s death on camera in Minneapolis, advocates say, was a powerful demonstration that police reform efforts of the last half-decade have failed to stop racist policing and killings. Meanwhile, the striking visuals of enormous, militarized and at times violent police forces responding to peaceful protests have led some politicians to question whether police really need this much money and firepower.
.....
Community groups advocating for defunding have put forward differing strategies, some merely opposing police budget increases, others advocating mass reductions, and some fighting for full defunding as a step toward abolishing police forces. Some initiatives are tied to the fight to close prisons. All are pushing for a reinvestment of those dollars in services.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-floyd-budgets

I want to see the government take away those military grade weapons from the police, this will happen when Biden is president in January 2021?!!

[Mott the Hoople]

Holy crap. Yeah, that's a LOT. I wonder if the defunding has to do with their military-type gear and armor and vehicles?

Meh my number are wrong. We have 21 cops per 10,000 people in Cbus which is more than double the National Average.

So we could reduce the presence substantially and still have more than adequate numbers to preserve law and order.

[TTQ64]

our tax dollars shouldn't go to murderers


fund healthcare not murder