WOW!! It appears even CNN admits Chauvin did NOT kill floyd

[Irish]

So, what people saw on the video - which is what inspired a week+ of protests - is a lie? Their eyes are deceiving them?

The peaceful protests were about Flyod, sure. But the anarchy, looting, etc were by Antifa and BLM thugs who didn't give 2 shits about GF.

More police will die thanks to these terrorist groups.

[Nomad]

3 words: stop & frisk.

Millions on the right almost had a revolution because they had to wear a mask for a few weeks. Hard to imagine their reaction if they were constantly pulled over, harassed & otherwise treated the way the black community has been by law enforcement & the courts, for decades.

Stop and frisk, though not good procedure, was done as a response to the high crime rates in black neighborhoods.

The cops were trying to protect the innocent residents who were demanding protection, so they tried something that ended up creating more resentment.

That doesn't mean the cops are aligned against black people.

[Nomad]

What are blacks supposed to do?. They are extremely inferior mentally and most cannot even read. They can't get real jobs and will always need the white man taking care of them and that creates resentment on both sides. We need to drastically cut back on welfare and pay blacks to return to africa.

That is not necessary and does nothing to advance the truth.

There are plenty of intelligent, decent black people.

I may disagree with them on issues like this, but that kind of trash talk just makes you look like a lightweight commenter.

[Nomad]

You bet it will. Any good defense attorney will use it.

The prosecution merely uses their experts to refute any claim that the drug use killed him. Any reasonable person will conclude that those drugs did not cause his death.

All I can say is that those Idaho 'shrooms must be bad ass.

[domer76]

Dude come on.

Stop with the "coincidence" ruse.

If he was walking around with high blood pressure, constricted arteries and a heart that had been damaged by excessive drug use, he was a walking coronary just looking for a place to happen.

Put him under the stress of being arrested and bang, there's your heart attack.

No coincidence necessary.

Stop playing dumb.

Assuming you're playing.

Bingo. You just said it that confirms my point.

He didn’t coincidentally die at that moment from his drug use or any other condition. He died as a result of the stress (your word) of the cop’s knee on his neck for 9 minutes. That meth didn’t kill him in that particular window. Nor the fentanyl. Nor pot. And you know it.

Why do you deny the obvious?

[domer76]

All I can say is that those Idaho 'shrooms must be bad ass.

Refute my post, moron.

[Nomad]

Bingo. You just said it that confirms my point.

He didn’t coincidentally die at that moment from his drug use or any other condition. He died as a result of the stress (your word) of the cop’s knee on his neck for 9 minutes. That meth didn’t kill him in that particular window. Nor the fentanyl. Nor pot. And you know it.

Why do you deny the obvious?

Why do you have to lie about what I said?

I said the stress of being arrested could have brought on the heart attack that was bound to happen anyway.

I said nothing specifically about the knee on his neck.

It is plain from he video that he was already wobbly and weak well before they had him on the ground.

That in itself could have been the beginning signs of the episode that killed him.

At any rate, given the autopsy and toxicology report, the state is going to have a hard row to hoe obtaining a murder conviction in this case.

[Nomad]

Refute my post, moron.

How does one refute a post that is attempting to predict the future?

Moron.

[Darth Omar]

Stop and frisk, though not good procedure, was done as a response to the high crime rates in black neighborhoods.

The cops were trying to protect the innocent residents who were demanding protection, so they tried something that ended up creating more resentment.

That doesn't mean the cops are aligned against black people.

Dude, you’re on a roll.

[Darth Omar]

Why do you have to lie about what I said?

I said the stress of being arrested could have brought on the heart attack that was bound to happen anyway.

I said nothing specifically about the knee on his neck.

It is plain from he video that he was already wobbly and weak well before they had him on the ground.

That in itself could have been the beginning signs of the episode that killed him.

At any rate, given the autopsy and toxicology report, the state is going to have a hard row to hoe obtaining a murder conviction in this case.

But the mob [literally, in this instance] demands a murder charge.

The knee to the neck, as it turns out, is an accepted restraint technique so the prosecution will get nowhere with that.

And you’re right: their biggest hurdle will be Floyd’s physical state as determined by autopsy. The defense will argue [rightly] that the force/restraint used against Floyd wouldn’t have killed a healthy person.

This is a manslaughter case and not a murder case. The cops *should be* charged with it because they failed to recognize that Floyd went unresponsive and act appropriately when he did.

If only we could people to start acting appropriately over this.

[domer76]

Why do you have to lie about what I said?

I said the stress of being arrested could have brought on the heart attack that was bound to happen anyway.

I said nothing specifically about the knee on his neck.

It is plain from he video that he was already wobbly and weak well before they had him on the ground.

That in itself could have been the beginning signs of the episode that killed him.

At any rate, given the autopsy and toxicology report, the state is going to have a hard row to hoe obtaining a murder conviction in this case.

Yeah, the knee on the neck was the least stressful part of the arrest, wasn’t it? At what part of the arrest did he die?

Wobbly and weak isn’t dead, is it?

Re: any conviction, those drug levels were nowhere near lethal.

[domer76]

But the mob [literally, in this instance] demands a murder charge.

The knee to the neck, as it turns out, is an accepted restraint technique so the prosecution will get nowhere with that.

And you’re right: their biggest hurdle will be Floyd’s physical state as determined by autopsy. The defense will argue [rightly] that the force/restraint used against Floyd wouldn’t have killed a healthy person.

This is a manslaughter case and not a murder case. The cops *should be* charged with it because they failed to recognize that Floyd went unresponsive and act appropriately when he did.

If only we could people to start acting appropriately over this.

Nine minutes with the person pleading for air is not an accepted technique. You’ll have lots of testimony to indicate that. Cops arrest unhealthy people all the time that don’t die in their custody.

Manslaughter? Maybe. That means your opinion is that the cop’s actions DID lead to the death of Floyd and that his actions were not appropriate. Glad you came around to reality.

[Phantasmal]

Both autopsies concluded it was homicide. George Floyd was murdered by cops.

[Nomad]

Dude, you’re on a roll.

I like to think that I always try to follow the truth no matter where it leads and no matter which direction it takes, i.e. to the right or to the left.

[Nomad]

But the mob [literally, in this instance] demands a murder charge.

The knee to the neck, as it turns out, is an accepted restraint technique so the prosecution will get nowhere with that.

And you’re right: their biggest hurdle will be Floyd’s physical state as determined by autopsy. The defense will argue [rightly] that the force/restraint used against Floyd wouldn’t have killed a healthy person.

This is a manslaughter case and not a murder case. The cops *should be* charged with it because they failed to recognize that Floyd went unresponsive and act appropriately when he did.

If only we could people to start acting appropriately over this.

Negligent homicide.

Of course, even that could depend on exactly when the cops placed a request for medical assistance.

If they already had a request in for an ambulance before they had him on the ground, then it could be assumed that they knew one was coming and the approved knee hold down procedure would become even less of a factor.

IOW, it would suggest (or prove) that Chauvin wasn't just in careless disregard for Floyd's health because he'd already called for medical assistance and knew it was on its way.

There is still a lot of information that hasn't come out yet and all these knee-jerk judgements by the know-it-alls will likely end up becoming irrelevant.