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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    My post was in response to the full range of training involved. Learning juijitsu would be nice but they are trained in a subset of necessary techniques that are suitable for their needs.
    They're being ' trained ' to kneel on necks by Izraeli fascists.
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    Graphic content- This shot was fired by one of Trump's fascist cowards;

    https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net...cf&oe=5EFC24C9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    pre-requisite for being an officer an active membership in a grappling club with 3 year minimal experience in said art, not karate, or some other bullshido, not muy thai or striking arts, but grappling arts like jiu jitsu, Cops should be at minimum a purple belt in jiu jitsu or equiv practice.
    Aye to that.

    Aikido (合気道, aikidō, Japanese pronunciation: [aikiꜜdoː], kyūjitai: 合氣道) is a modern Japanese martial art developed by Morihei Ueshiba as a synthesis of his martial studies, philosophy and religious beliefs. Ueshiba's goal was to create an art that practitioners could use to defend themselves while also protecting their attackers from injury.

    https://eAikido (合気道, aikidō, Japanese pronunciation: [aikiꜜdoː], kyūjitai: 合氣道) is a modern Japanese martial art developed by Morihei Ueshiba as a synthesis of his martial studies, philosophy and religious beliefs. Ueshiba's goal was to create an art that practitioners could use to defend themselves while also protecting their attackers from injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    They're being ' trained ' to kneel on necks by Izraeli fascists.
    Pretty sure Minneapolis isnt going to the expense of importing Israeli trainers.
    You should go hide under your bed so covid doesnt kill you. UK death rate on the climb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Pretty sure Minneapolis isnt going to the expense of importing Israeli trainers.
    You should go hide under your bed so covid doesnt kill you. UK death rate on the climb.
    You're much dummer than you think;

    Concern as US police officers are trained in Israel

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    Much dummer;

    U.S. Police Routinely Travel to Israel to Learn Methods of Brutality and Repression

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    Much, much dummer;

    WITH WHOM ARE MANY U.S. POLICE DEPARTMENTS TRAINING? WITH A CHRONIC HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATOR – ISRAEL

    https://www.amnestyusa.org/with-whom...olator-israel/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    Serious congressional legislation proposal for both sides.

    Police Reform

    1) Better police hiring and training programs and practices. (This would be hard to enforce federally, but you could create guidelines to be used.)

    2) Body cams and cruiser cams mandated.

    3) End immunity clause given to police.

    4) Only allow special prosecutors, from state AG office, to review and try cases against police. Only allow IAD or a neighboring county to investigate an officer. (This would get rid of the cozy relationship between local prosecutor and local PD.)

    5) Mandate police outreach programs, town halls, etc.

    Riot Reform

    1) Anyone who loots or burns down a building will be arrested and tried for crimes. No matter if they are caught in the act or at a later time. (No more, well it was during a riot so we are going to let it slide.)

    2) Creating of a special agency or FBI task force whose sole purpose is to investigate domestic terror groups responsible for creating chaos and riots. Specifically to go after Antifa, and Anarchist groups.

    3) Special tasks force or agency to go after looters, and rioters post riots. Have special police divisions whose purpose is to hunt down who has stolen merchandise and make arrests.

    4) Increase penalties for rioting and looting. Most these people spend a few days in jail and are rarely charged. No longer. Make it a felony or federal crime and have these people punished from 1-10 years depending on the severity of the crime.

    5) Anyone who makes threats against police, or tries to attack a police officer will be tried for a federal crime. With minimum sentences of 20 years if convicted.

    Thoughts?
    "5) Anyone who makes threats against police, or tries to attack a police officer will be tried for a federal crime. With minimum sentences of 20 years if convicted."
    This is like the same 'Get Out of Jail Card' of "He went for a Gun". Another device of 'Police Immunity'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    Serious congressional legislation proposal for both sides.

    Police Reform

    1) Better police hiring and training programs and practices. (This would be hard to enforce federally, but you could create guidelines to be used.)

    2) Body cams and cruiser cams mandated.

    3) End immunity clause given to police.

    4) Only allow special prosecutors, from state AG office, to review and try cases against police. Only allow IAD or a neighboring county to investigate an officer. (This would get rid of the cozy relationship between local prosecutor and local PD.)

    5) Mandate police outreach programs, town halls, etc.

    Riot Reform

    1) Anyone who loots or burns down a building will be arrested and tried for crimes. No matter if they are caught in the act or at a later time. (No more, well it was during a riot so we are going to let it slide.)

    2) Creating of a special agency or FBI task force whose sole purpose is to investigate domestic terror groups responsible for creating chaos and riots. Specifically to go after Antifa, and Anarchist groups.

    3) Special tasks force or agency to go after looters, and rioters post riots. Have special police divisions whose purpose is to hunt down who has stolen merchandise and make arrests.

    4) Increase penalties for rioting and looting. Most these people spend a few days in jail and are rarely charged. No longer. Make it a felony or federal crime and have these people punished from 1-10 years depending on the severity of the crime.

    5) Anyone who makes threats against police, or tries to attack a police officer will be tried for a federal crime. With minimum sentences of 20 years if convicted.

    Thoughts?
    Thanks for a very well thought out non-political post of some very good non-political ways to propose to improve Policing in America.

    I would certainly vote on these proposals!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon View Post
    You're much dummer than you think;
    Excellent ! The israelis are the best there is. They have to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    Go talk to the police where you live and find out the challenges they already face recruiting before you go adding more problems.
    Theyre outnumbered, outgunned and betrayed by the polititians.
    Make being a criminal a bad thing again.
    Yeah, the police have no power. That is why this terrible time will result in nothing happening, just like it always does. This is not the first go around and they all end up with no substantive change. The police have huge power. They always win.
    The recruiting problem is they are running out of sadists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    Perhaps they could include it in the police academies.
    I give police academies an A+ for teaching rookie police how to look after their own safety, overcome physical assaults by using physical fighting techniques that are effective, and the use of weapons, firearms, and body gear.

    Having all that said, I don't think Police Academies do enough in teaching discretion, restraint, and racial insensitivity, or the values of trust.

    There is a human element to policing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    If blacks want better treatment all they need to do is act like they deserve it.
    I don't disagree. This all goes back to Johnson's 1965 legislation that destroyed the black family.
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    "5) Anyone who makes threats against police, or tries to attack a police officer will be tried for a federal crime. With minimum sentences of 20 years if convicted."
    This is like the same 'Get Out of Jail Card' of "He went for a Gun". Another device of 'Police Immunity'.
    Uhh no. Has nothing to do with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Thanks for a very well thought out non-political post of some very good non-political ways to propose to improve Policing in America.

    I would certainly vote on these proposals!
    You're welcome, and thanks!
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