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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    In my opinion, it is being selfishly and financially driven

    I also believe it was originally being driven as a sideshow!

    The drug is known for one major use- it is known for it's success in dealing with pneumonia- but with some very dangerous side-effects that are very well known in the medical/pharmaceutical Industry.
    WRONG...it is mostly used for malaria and lupus , to treat thoracic and pulmonary congestion....IOW what kills COVID patients.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    THERE IS NOTHING THE LYING LEFT WILL NOT LIE ABOUT, TO FURTHER ITS AGENDA...NOTHING.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    THERE IS NOTHING THE LYING LEFT WILL NOT LIE ABOUT, TO FURTHER ITS AGENDA...NOTHING.
    Power is the only thing that matters to them now....sadly they really do suck this badly now.....it was not always thus.
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

    DARK AGES SUCK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    In my opinion, it is being selfishly and financially driven

    I also believe it was originally being driven as a sideshow!

    The drug is known for one major use it's success in dealing with pneumonia-- it is known for it's success in dealing with pneumonia- but with some very dangerous side-effects that are very well known in the medical/pharmaceutical Industry.
    you are always fact challenged .. if you are not 100% sure of your claims take the time to check them
    The drug is known for one major use it's success in dealing with pneumonia
    it was developed as an anti- malaria . It's used in Lupus as an immunosuppressant.
    While it does modulate the immune system in various ways, it does not lead to an increased risk
    of infections and does not require lab monitoring.

    even for higher dose like early treatment of COVI it's not considered a cardiac antagonist
    unless there is a pre-condition, and EKGs are not normally required.

    Now you know how safe and common it is -do you get the idea the Lancet study was unorganized story telling having no clinical use It made no measures of degree of advancement during the illness and not even dosages.

    for some really worrisome reason medical studies on this have been politicized since Trump mentioned/used it.
    Look at yourself, you didn't understand the pharmacology and jumped at "financial" reason
    You are all too typical of LW ignoring factual data

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonsprat22 View Post
    Trump is discredited. Everything that piece of shit says is a lie.
    That is a shame because he said you were smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    That is a shame because he said you were smart.
    Oh, boooo, hiss, this is a groaner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpressLane View Post
    That is a shame because he said you were smart.
    dumb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    Power is the only thing that matters to them now....sadly they really do suck this badly now.....it was not always thus.
    I remember....Scoop Jackson, etc...
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    the questions swirling around the Lancet paper have left leaders of the halted chloroquine trials weighing whether to restart. “The problem is, we are left with all the damage that has been done,” says White, a co-investigator on a trial of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 prevention that was halted at the request of U.K. regulators last week. Headlines proclaiming deadly effects will make it hard to recruit patients to key studies, he says.
    “The whole world thinks now that these drugs are poisonous.”

    Other researchers immediately took issue with the analysis.
    The study doesn’t properly control for the likelihood that patients getting the experimental drugs were sicker than the controls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    I remember....Scoop Jackson, etc...
    The Left did not used to reek this much...do U remember that?
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

    DARK AGES SUCK!

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    The Right thinks that the Left is wrong and needs to wise the fuck up.

    The Left thinks that the Right is Evil, and must either convert or die.

    There is no equality here...The Right are the Better People.
    I choose my own words like the Americans of olden times........before this dystopia arrived.

    DARK AGES SUCK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    you are always fact challenged .. if you are not 100% sure of your claims take the time to check them

    it was developed as an anti- malaria . It's used in Lupus as an immunosuppressant.
    While it does modulate the immune system in various ways, it does not lead to an increased risk
    of infections and does not require lab monitoring.

    even for higher dose like early treatment of COVI it's not considered a cardiac antagonist
    unless there is a pre-condition, and EKGs are not normally required.

    Now you know how safe and common it is -do you get the idea the Lancet study was unorganized story telling having no clinical use It made no measures of degree of advancement during the illness and not even dosages.

    for some really worrisome reason medical studies on this have been politicized since Trump mentioned/used it.
    Look at yourself, you didn't understand the pharmacology and jumped at "financial" reason
    You are all too typical of LW ignoring factual data
    Hey dumbass, we are saying the same thing. Malaria's cause of death is often times pneumonia, Lupus cause of death is often times pneumonia. It treats a common symptom of malaria and lupus- which is pneumonia.

    Don't try to use conjecture to make a point.

    And for fucks sake, if you are talking about immunosuppressants, you certainly would not be using such a drug with such harsh side-effects. As Garlic, zinc, ginger, and honey are far more effective than any drug, they are natural, and with no dangerous side effects.

    Immunosuppressant my ass!

    Sir, I think you need to keep reading and if you want to play doctor, i'm sure they have someone available at the modeling agency that would be more fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geeko Sportivo View Post
    Hey dumbass, we are saying the same thing. Malaria's cause of death is often times pneumonia, Lupus cause of death is often times pneumonia.

    Don't try to use conjecture to make a point.
    thats right, and COVID patients dying of pneumonia as well. I misread your post a bit, sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    WRONG...it is mostly used for malaria and lupus , to treat thoracic and pulmonary congestion....IOW what kills COVID patients.
    Great, that is about the 100th different thing I have heard someone today say it is used for.

    Do you know what thoracic pulmonary congestion is?- It's fluid in the lungs- or pneumonia!

    Thanks for helping me make my case Grok!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye10 View Post
    The safety of this drug is well established....it has been in use a very long time....many decades...many many millions of people have used it.
    Safe- for who? Yes, it may be safe if you do not have serious lung or heart issues.

    If you do, it can kill you dead in minutes.

    The side affects are well known, and they are considered Harsh, Dangerous, and unpredictable side effects.

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