Iran's foreign minister just tweeted this

[Earl]

Is this confusing you, Jacky?

Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
“The Iranian security forces brutally put down and killed thousands in the recent protests, maybe you are advocating that the US do the same?“

[FUCK THE POLICE]

My point is that there is a convergence of a number of factors.
People have lost their Jobs. They are literally faced with an extra 8 hours of nothing to do.
Combine that with forced 'Social Distancing' and 'Stay ay Home' orders.
Now ... add in the 'Free Money'. You are now no longer concerned about the 'Rent & Bean' money.
It's like the perfect recipe for Young People to 'Have a Street Party'.

Plus ... (and this is the best part) the US is in competition with China (Hong Kong) on who can look more humane is handling Dissenters.

Atlanta just fired two Cops for being 'too rough' on arresting some people.

I've been warning people that this country is a fucking powder keg for months and been laughed at by sensible liberals and conservatives alike. Who's laughing now . Who was the idiot who actually thought we could keep on going like we were? What a goddamn fool.

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Which is why we need to slaughter all Muslim rapefugees throughout the west.

You really want to kill don't you brother

[FUCK THE POLICE]

China just Tweeted "I can't breathe"

Based

[FUCK THE POLICE]

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I read recently that China and Iran wanted to tailor it's propaganda in such a way, all very transparent but lapped up by the braindead.

I read all the propaganda, unlike you who just reads western propaganda and doesn't when realize what he's reading. The fact that their propaganda is so on the mark and stinging at the moment should perhaps be a wake up call for you. You are stinging because they're not even having to fib right now.

[cancel2 2022]

I read all the propaganda, unlike you who just reads western propaganda and doesn't when realize what he's reading. The fact that their propaganda is so on the mark and stinging at the moment should perhaps be a wake up call for you. You are stinging because they're not even having to fib right now.

Yeh as If there is any kind of equivalence with China basically fucking over the whole world for decades to come and now trying to turn Iran into yet another BRI client state.

[AProudLefty]

What happened to your "Respect" thread where you banned a poster (RockX) who was perma-banned four years ago, proving you are a sock, sock?

I guess a mod deleted it? No idea why.

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Yeh as If there is any kind of equivalence with China basically fucking over the whole world for decades to come and now trying to turn Iran into yet another BRI client state.

It would probably be a bit harder for China to turn Iran into a client state of we, I dunno, followed the nuclear deal and pursued detente, instead of breaking the treaty and resuming all the sanctions in the world except this time without any negotiations or terms, like nothing, our position is that we're just going to blockade them forever and that's their life now, maybe unconditional surrender could tempt Trump but I'm sure he'd get slapped down by Netanyahu.

Here's the thing of having a negotiating position of nothing, Iran has nothing to lose, anyone that offers it anything is offering a pretty good deal. What the hell is America going to do, increase sanctions, it's beating a dead horse, you're doing all the sanctions, you will not be satisfied until the last Iranian breathes their final breathe. China comes over and is like, nah, we don't need to genocide your entire country. This makes them the bad guys of course.

Again, it's not China's fault that unlike South Korea and itself the west proved utterly incapable of containment. It's not China's fault that you wasted like an entire month gloating over the deaths in Wuhan, being racist to Chinese people, and generally focusing entirely on what opportunities this would provide to contain the uppity yellow nation that was intent on committing the crime of developing without white peoples consent. You could've shored up your stockpiles of ppe, or maybe not waited until April to change your advice on face masks to something other than "Lmao those stupid Asians wearing masks like it's actually going to help out, what dweebs". If Trump would've shut down all travel around when or soon after he banned China, that would've practically been a master stroke. If he would've just banned travel to Europe that would've been great. But instead we waited until March. Hmmmmm. Parts of the west tried to fight a pandemic with racism, others virtue signaled about how they aren't going to do the racism.

And you both got fucked, why did you spend two months fighting about how racist to be to the Chinese, literally anything else wouldn't been a better use of your time. Trump banned China because he was hankering to trigger the libs by being a dick to China, and then he immediately lost all the interest in the subject. When outbreaks grew in Europe to sizes far surpassing the level of outbreak that existed in China at the time when Trump banned it, like no interest at all, the virus is fake news. Also at this point he could have put a lock down on New York City, that would've been great in addition to a European or world travel ban in February or even January. He did not do either of those things, you see, the stock market at that time was nearing 30k, so he was still denying the virus existed. If he had put a European travel ban in place or locked down NYC, he'd basically be admitting the China virus existed and that his genius China ban hasn't saved us all, and stocks probably would've dipped a great deal in February, depriving him of his stock really he needs for reelection.

If he'd done these things, also the United States would have largely been spared the virus. Now eventually he would wind up banning Europe, long after doing so cold have done any good. Hmmm maybe we should have introduced travel bans in an orderly rational fashion purely based on the best move to stop the spread, instead of, like clearly and obviously, largely using a pandemic containment measure as a tit for tat tool. Like ban China on a hair trigger, and then give white countries that you like a pass until long after they've spreas it to you. Can we stop pretending like this didn't happen? That we can't have just one thing applied based on reason and neutrally, instead of yet another stupid tit for tat scheme, like Trump tried to Art of the Deal the deal coronavirus, yet another opportunity to show how good he is to his friends and bad he is to his enemies. A pandemic doesn't care though. Can you please stop pretending this didn't happen? Can you stop pretending like Trumps China ban was unimfluenced by his hatred of China, that the much later ban on Europe didn't get delayed because they're one of the good boys, maybe stop ignoring that long period of time where he did genuinely pretend it wasn't happening like clearly because his eyes were locked to his precious stock counter? Can you stop acting like any of this was reasonable or well thought out behavior, that every single decision he made during the entirety of the pandemic was disastrously filtered through his juvenile honor based value system, every single decision was made either too early or too late, because he's a fucking child, because he can't for a moment be fair to his enemies, he can't fail to give his friends preferential treatment, he bullshits and denies anything that he thinks harm his own personal short term interests, even at massive cost to the nation. And of course the minute the situation changes such that his interests are no longer at stake but an enemy can be harmed, he immediately flips like a switch, transparently obvious, even if it's too late at that point and no longer useful, because he did another stupid han , had to win yet again.

And moreover, all of this is happening right before our eyes , you see it as clearly as I do, and you don't care. Your failed ideology is more important. So yeah, let's just go back to China bashing, that's how this all started anyway, may as well come back to where we left off.

You hate China, but Xi Jinping in his coronavirus response displayed exactly 0 of the qualities I described above. He immediately took the drastic necessary actions necessary for the good of his nation. Pretty sure like exactly nothing was just done just to be a dick to America, he was too concerned with his own country for that. I'm sure Chinese stocks fell pretty hard when he shut Wuhan down. It sure as hell looks like a pretty good decision now. He's capable of seeing further than his nose, he knows the stocks go up and down, and he'd never sacrifice 100k Chinese while watching the fucking stick ticker.

President Moon, again, he got down to work immediately and focused on saving his country. It was not an opportunity to show e political or national vendetta. He's not a fucking fair ass snake psychopath like that he's capable of just fighting the problem for a second, he doesn't get bogged down on stupid vendettas like backwards and parts of American culture , that need to grow the fuck up already.

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[FUCK THE POLICE]

If Europe had spent the past decade on anything besides completely hollowing out, privatizing, and generally looting with abandon the entire public sector of Southern Europe to prop up their banks and their poor decisions, maybe it wouldn't have spread like wildfire through the hollowed shell of a public health sector that they'd been allowed to keep after Germany was satisfied that the quality of Healthcare provided to Italians was sufficiently worse than their own. You know make selling off every state asset that is nailed down so that you can then turn around and instead pay rent to some private owner isn't the the road to the infinite wealth after all, that sort of like selling your house and paying rent on it, that would generally be considered a poor financial choice. Somehow this is neoliberalism answer to all things, make the state a bigger renter. Italy once owned a health system, it sold it, spent the proceeds to banks and tax cuts, and it was gone in the blink of an eye. Now, it rents a health care system, somehow this is supposed to make it a state in a better and more sustainable financial footing. Actually let's not kid ourselves, the financial stability of southern Europe was the least of concerns, it was actually about protecting the banks, the debates long culture war project in which Southern Europe was made to prostrate itself and self flallegate before the vaunted holy FANG's, and the FANG's were subject to endless worshipful adulation and nauseating bootlicking about how genius and culturally superior they were to not have suffered as much in a financial crash and been spared a speculative run on their bonds to double or triple digit interest rates. So they didn't immediately lose debt as an effective source of revenue.

But also we have to pretend like 2008 never happened and Greece was in trouble purely because it's welfare state was too big or something , overly generous retirement, failing to convert enough of its assets to things it instead pays rent in, you know, generally the sort of stuff neoliberals just always want to do no matter what, except now that your country basically has lost all effective access to debt markets, it needs to be done much harder for some reason. If it doesn't help, your haven't done it enough.<div><br></div><div>You know this entire bullshit wouldn't even be possible if the FANG's would get tf over themselves and stop trying to run a monetary union with no liability and no sharing of burden, any dissent and the Troika comes over to wage a magic want and gloat while you're country is reduced to third world status, all while telling your how greedy and irresponsible you are.</div><div><br></div><div>If Europe collectivized its debt, these speculative attacks would be impossible, interest rates would probably be lower than those of any individual country, you'd have an asset that could challenge the dollar once backed by Europe's collective GDP. It's honestly profoundly stupid if you think about it, a collective European bond would mean they could practically print money like America, Greece wouldn't have to pretend like fire fighters ate an expensive luxury, Italy and Spain would not be powder kegs waiting to explode, if anything the FANG's would only benefit financially. Southern Europe didn't suffer because it's was greedy, they were smaller and easier targets for speculators to divide and conquer. The FANG's though would rather sneer and gloat and bask in the suffering of their southern neighbors than pay whatever higher interests rates they calculate in their head there'd be by averaging out all the current ones, because they're really really stupid and think markets work that way, that a collective financial asset would be just like an mutual fund of current seperate national debt instruments.

In America meanwhile we are literally printing money and I couldn't care less that some of the states are poorer than others, come tf on, we help each other out.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The pandemic your are experiencing, is the fruit of austerity.&nbsp;</div>