Page 11 of 25 FirstFirst ... 78910111213141521 ... LastLast
Results 151 to 165 of 365

Thread: Serious question here: If Floyd died from neck compression as claimed.....

  1. #151 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    In my house
    Posts
    21,174
    Thanks
    3,418
    Thanked 7,931 Times in 5,908 Posts
    Groans
    9
    Groaned 444 Times in 424 Posts
    Blog Entries
    4

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Is that the one that was done by the Floyd family's hand-picked, bought and paid for pathologist?

    Big surprise there....
    Read it and they state that ot was pressure on one artery that blacked him out and hand cuffs restricted diaphragm.

    Even they couldn't make up something to involve the airway.
    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
    The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.

  2. #152 | Top
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Posts
    5,238
    Thanks
    62
    Thanked 3,604 Times in 2,088 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 92 Times in 88 Posts

    Default

    Medical Examiner Says George Floyd Was on Fentanyl, Died of Heart Attack

    https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/01/georg...tack-fentanyl/

  3. The Following User Says Thank You to ziggy For This Post:

    Truth Detector (06-02-2020)

  4. #153 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    36,484
    Thanks
    16,670
    Thanked 20,754 Times in 14,346 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 1,387 Times in 1,305 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Depends whether he knew it was a fake $20 to begin with. We’ll probably never know that.

    Floyd was sitting on the ground for a period of time after they removed him from his car. ZERO resistance. They marched him across the street where the death occurred. As he was pleading that he couldn’t breath, I saw no resistance. Did you?
    Initially I heard that he was in the cruiser already, and then they dragged him out.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

  5. #154 | Top
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Posts
    48,994
    Thanks
    12,115
    Thanked 14,177 Times in 10,395 Posts
    Groans
    45
    Groaned 4,876 Times in 4,194 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Or the stress of knowing he was about to be arrested and sent to jail?

    Or the stress of his resisting those attempts by the police to arrest him and the subsequent struggle that ensued, resulting in him being pinned to the pavement?

    Look. I'm not claiming or insisting that any of what I described happened.

    Neither you nor I nor anyone but the cops involved know exactly what happened.

    But it could have happened that way in spite of what you claim to know otherwise.
    Try 9 minutes of a cop kneeling on his neck. Two minutes AFTER he was unconscious and/or dead.

  6. The Following User Groans At domer76 For This Awful Post:

    cancel2 2022 (06-01-2020)

  7. #155 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    26,550
    Thanks
    9,556
    Thanked 11,905 Times in 7,965 Posts
    Groans
    2,333
    Groaned 1,669 Times in 1,547 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Try 9 minutes of a cop kneeling on his neck. Two minutes AFTER he was unconscious and/or dead.
    When the county medical examiner's office says that was the cause of death, which from what I just read, they have, then I'll accept it.

    But I will not jump on the bandwagon with a bunch of amatuer analysts like yourself and everyone else that has been calling for the cop's head on a pike just to go along with the popular opinion.

    You all have claimed that you "knew" from the beginning, but none of us ever "knew" anything.

    I prefer to let the scientists tell me what the science says.
    https://i.postimg.cc/PqVCnGks/gojoe1.jpg
    C'MON MAN!!!!

  8. #156 | Top
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Posts
    48,994
    Thanks
    12,115
    Thanked 14,177 Times in 10,395 Posts
    Groans
    45
    Groaned 4,876 Times in 4,194 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    When the county medical examiner's office says that was the cause of death, which from what I just read, they have, then I'll accept it.

    But I will not jump on the bandwagon with a bunch of amatuer analysts like yourself and everyone else that has been calling for the cop's head on a pike just to go along with the popular opinion.

    You all have claimed that you "knew" from the beginning, but none of us ever "knew" anything.

    I prefer to let the scientists tell me what the science says.
    Everything a cop does that’s illegal deserves firing. And prosecution.

    Not everything that’s ‘fire-able’ is necessarily illegal.

    What that cop did was, at a minimum, fire-able. We’ll see if it’s criminal.

  9. The Following User Says Thank You to domer76 For This Post:

    Nomad (06-01-2020)

  10. #157 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2018
    Posts
    23,535
    Thanks
    3,067
    Thanked 9,771 Times in 7,272 Posts
    Groans
    49
    Groaned 1,060 Times in 1,005 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    ....why was he able move and reposition his head and neck at various points? I
    Who gives a fuck?
    Hang the four pig cops from a tree, and we can discuss it after that.

  11. The Following User Groans At NiftyNiblick For This Awful Post:

    cancel2 2022 (06-01-2020)

  12. #158 | Top
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Posts
    76,854
    Thanks
    30,538
    Thanked 12,939 Times in 11,525 Posts
    Groans
    11
    Groaned 1,361 Times in 1,347 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    ....why was he able move and reposition his head and neck at various points?

    I know this video only shows about one minute of an incident that lasted eight or nine minutes, but look closely at Chauvin's knee. He keeps relaxing or adjusting his weight, allowing Floyd to move his head around a little bit.

    Most noticeably around the :37 point....



    You can see Floyd reposition his head and Chauvin's knee seems moves a little to accommodate him as well.

    So if Chauvin was intent on using lethal or brutal force on Floyd, why would he allow even the slightest movement of the head and neck?

    Even by the sort of casual looking way Chavin seems to be crouched, it doesn't really look like he's bearing down on Floyd with all of his weight. One knee looks to be on the pavement behind Floyd, supporting most of his weight, the other is on the back of Floyd's head and neck and appears to just be attempting to hold him still.

    All I am suggesting here, before some of you start screaming RACIST!!!!! at me, is that there are too many unanswered questions to be condemning Chauvin for at this stage.

    If, when the autopsy report is released, it affirms that Floyd died as the result of a crushed windpipe or asphyxiation due to excessive weight on his neck or back etc, then I will join the choir in calling for his conviction.

    But until then, I am going to remain open to all possibilities.
    Since Floyd was talking the whole time, he wasn't suffocating.

  13. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Into the Night For This Post:

    Nomad (06-01-2020), Truth Detector (06-02-2020)

  14. #159 | Top
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    108,120
    Thanks
    60,501
    Thanked 35,051 Times in 26,519 Posts
    Groans
    47,393
    Groaned 4,742 Times in 4,521 Posts
    Blog Entries
    61

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Who gives a fuck?
    Hang the four pig cops from a tree, and we can discuss it after that.
    You're such a charmer, Nasty Knoblicker!
    Last edited by cancel2 2022; 06-01-2020 at 06:56 PM.

  15. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to cancel2 2022 For This Post:

    Nomad (06-01-2020), Truth Detector (06-02-2020)

  16. #160 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    26,550
    Thanks
    9,556
    Thanked 11,905 Times in 7,965 Posts
    Groans
    2,333
    Groaned 1,669 Times in 1,547 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Everything a cop does that’s illegal deserves firing. And prosecution.

    Not everything that’s ‘fire-able’ is necessarily illegal.

    What that cop did was, at a minimum, fire-able. We’ll see if it’s criminal.
    On that we can agree.
    https://i.postimg.cc/PqVCnGks/gojoe1.jpg
    C'MON MAN!!!!

  17. #161 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    26,550
    Thanks
    9,556
    Thanked 11,905 Times in 7,965 Posts
    Groans
    2,333
    Groaned 1,669 Times in 1,547 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    Who gives a fuck?
    Hang the four pig cops from a tree, and we can discuss it after that.
    Sounds like they should have done that to your parents before they had the chance to produce a POS like you.
    https://i.postimg.cc/PqVCnGks/gojoe1.jpg
    C'MON MAN!!!!

  18. The Following User Says Thank You to Nomad For This Post:

    cancel2 2022 (06-01-2020)

  19. #162 | Top
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Steeler Nation
    Posts
    64,534
    Thanks
    65,163
    Thanked 38,094 Times in 25,664 Posts
    Groans
    5,815
    Groaned 2,614 Times in 2,498 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Since Floyd was talking the whole time, he wasn't suffocating.
    That's not necessarily true.

    "Regardless of what Mr. Floyd allegedly did or didn’t do, there’s no reason to put a knee on the neck," said John Peters Jr., president of the Institute for the Prevention and Management of In-Custody Deaths, which trains police academy instructors on use of force...

    "When somebody says, 'I can’t breathe,' that is a medical emergency and you get EMS to treat them right way," Peters said. "Because at that point, the suspect becomes a patient."

    Just because someone is talking doesn't mean they can breathe, said Peters, who has offered a free online course to thousands of officers on positional asphyxia."

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ll/5274334002/


    “What greater gift than the love of a cat.”
    ― Charles Dickens

  20. The Following User Says Thank You to christiefan915 For This Post:

    anatta (06-01-2020)

  21. #163 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    life
    Posts
    52,794
    Thanks
    13,341
    Thanked 22,579 Times in 15,814 Posts
    Groans
    249
    Groaned 1,951 Times in 1,862 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    That's not necessarily true.

    "Regardless of what Mr. Floyd allegedly did or didn’t do, there’s no reason to put a knee on the neck," said John Peters Jr., president of the Institute for the Prevention and Management of In-Custody Deaths, which trains police academy instructors on use of force...

    "When somebody says, 'I can’t breathe,' that is a medical emergency and you get EMS to treat them right way," Peters said. "Because at that point, the suspect becomes a patient."

    Just because someone is talking doesn't mean they can breathe, said Peters, who has offered a free online course to thousands of officers on positional asphyxia."

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ll/5274334002/
    indeed . good research.
    many cops are misled to think if someone is talking they are also breathing. not always true

  22. The Following User Says Thank You to anatta For This Post:

    christiefan915 (06-02-2020)

  23. #164 | Top
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    26,550
    Thanks
    9,556
    Thanked 11,905 Times in 7,965 Posts
    Groans
    2,333
    Groaned 1,669 Times in 1,547 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    That's not necessarily true.

    "Regardless of what Mr. Floyd allegedly did or didn’t do, there’s no reason to put a knee on the neck," said John Peters Jr., president of the Institute for the Prevention and Management of In-Custody Deaths, which trains police academy instructors on use of force...

    "When somebody says, 'I can’t breathe,' that is a medical emergency and you get EMS to treat them right way," Peters said. "Because at that point, the suspect becomes a patient."

    Just because someone is talking doesn't mean they can breathe, said Peters, who has offered a free online course to thousands of officers on positional asphyxia."

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ll/5274334002/
    The cop obviously acted stupidly, carelessly and even callously.

    But they need to be careful and not give in to their zeal to pacify the public by over charging him.

    If they try him on 2nd degree murder or higher, they may well find out what the prosecution in the Casey Anthony and George Zimmerman trials found out the hard way.... as regrettable as the death in question may be, juries do not want to convict a person above what the evidence suggests they did.

    This should be treated as manslaughter at best.
    https://i.postimg.cc/PqVCnGks/gojoe1.jpg
    C'MON MAN!!!!

  24. #165 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Location
    land-locked in Ocala,FL
    Posts
    27,321
    Thanks
    30,862
    Thanked 16,758 Times in 11,557 Posts
    Groans
    1,063
    Groaned 889 Times in 847 Posts

    Default

    Combination of pressure on arteries in the neck, affecting blood flow, in turn affects oxygen to the brain.
    Plus 3 cops sitting on his back making it difficult to free the rib cage to effectively inhale and exhale.
    He died before the medics arrived with the stretcher...and they still stayed on him.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



  25. The Following User Says Thank You to Stretch For This Post:

    anatta (06-01-2020)

Similar Threads

  1. Trump, Biden neck-and-neck in six battleground states: Poll
    By dukkha in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 04-22-2020, 09:04 PM
  2. 3,000 died on 911 because bin Laden & 3,000 died in PR because Trump
    By reagansghost in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 08-29-2018, 07:31 PM
  3. Floyd's in trouble again?
    By Mott the Hoople in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 05-05-2011, 09:08 AM
  4. OH NO! WHAT'S A RED NECK TO DO!!!!!
    By LadyT in forum General Politics Forum
    Replies: 44
    Last Post: 01-17-2008, 04:21 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Rules

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •