anonymoose (05-31-2020)
anonymoose (05-31-2020)
Lets bring this conversation back to reality:
1) He is not dead.
2) He is not murdered, because he is not dead.
3) He does not own a business.
4) He was not defending his business, because he does not own a business.
5) For some reason, he was chasing people with a machete. He has claimed it was to defend his neighborhood.
6) He does not live in the neighborhood, so his reason makes no sense.
7) For some reason he was being followed by a friend filming him chase people with a machete.
8) His friend immediately put the end of the video up on a Neo-Nazi website.
9) And you are now presenting the Neo-Nazi version of the video, and what happened.
10) Whites not trying to kill people with machetes can be seen freely moving around with no fear of violence. Even his friend with the camera is unafraid.
I could present a theory at this point, but it would just be a theory. I will say that there appears to be a few people doing some very odd things thinking it will spark something, and they all appear to be white and disliking blacks.
No one died, so it is not manslaughter. What we have to work out is why he was running around with a machete, and exactly what he was doing with that machete. Then we will know what is happening here.
Neo-Nazi propaganda is not going to help us get to the bottom of this. The Neo-Nazis are trying to get your adrenaline pumping to get you to go out and murder blacks. Do not fall for it.
I am not going to defend "fuck the police", much less his name. But I will point out that it has become very common for Republicans to call for mass murder. I mean trump himself did it. If we are going to start putting people in prison for inciting violence, I do not know if we are going to have enough cells to hold all of you.
You have some whites on one side, and whites and blacks working together on the other side. You cannot call the side with whites and blacks working together anti-white. They may well be anti-you.
I had a family event at a synagogue that had been covered the night before with swastikas and MAGA graffiti. A lot of the people who went there were justifiably angry at the Alt Right, and spoke of doing violence to them. I tried to remain calm, and not perpetuate violence.
Whatever your grievances are, and there are some very real grievances out there, we need to fight the urge to commit violence.
He does not own a shop, and there are no shops being damaged. Look in the background, do you see a shop being attacked? It could be considered a riot, maybe. It looks more like a block party.
So why is he attacking people with a machete? That is the trigger for all this. For some reason, he and his friend went to a neighborhood he does not have a connection to. His friend filmed while he tried to hack people with a machete.
What people should have done was run away from him (obviously), and gotten the police to handle the situation. This is Texas, so they are legally allowed to handle the situation on their own. That means that beating him up might not be a crime. It certainly cannot be "murder 2", because he is alive. The worst you can get them on is assault, but they had no obligation to retreat in Texas. In England, it would be assault.
He did arm himself; he had a machete.
But lets say he showed up at a protest, with a gun. He would need to do some action to start the fight, which is hard to do if you are carrying a gun. The obvious action would be to start shooting... At that point it is really hard for him not to be the criminal.
They stopped when he went limp, so you cannot get to attempted murder. He was attacking people with a machete, so it sounds like Texas self defense. Stand your ground means that they did not have to back down from him and his deadly weapon.
In most jurisdictions outside the USA, there is an obligation to retreat. If you can defend yourself by moving away, you are supposed to do that. This allows the situation to be calmed with the least amount of bloodshed.
Texas goes firmly the other way. Once he became a threat, they had the right to use deadly force against the threat.
I have to question the wisdom of him picking a fight with ten people. This is the bizarre part about all this.
I am trying to figure out if he intended to lose, or whether he had some delusion that he could defeat a lot of people with his machete. I have noticed that Alt Right losers have over inflated self confidence in their fighting ability. They have seen a huge number of fighting films, and somehow think that is the way the world works.
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