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    "President Trump has announced that he is immediately halting the decades-long U.S. membership in the World Health Organization over its response to China's handling of the coronavirus epidemic.

    In a press briefing Friday at the White House, Trump said, "We will be today terminating our relationship with the World Health Organization and redirecting those funds to other worldwide and deserving urgent global public health needs."

    Trump said the decision came because WHO has "failed to make" reforms the U.S. requested. Last week, Trump sent a letter to WHO's director-general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, outlining his views on how the agency favors China and asking the organization to "commit to major substantive improvements within the next 30 days." It's not clear what specific reforms the U.S. has requested, because those discussions have not been made public. Nor did Trump say why he acted on the threat after one week rather than waiting a month."

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    ""I disagree with the president's decision," said Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., chairman of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, in a statement after the announcement. "Withdrawing U.S. membership could, among other things, interfere with clinical trials that are essential to the development of vaccines, which citizens of the United States as well as others in the world need. And withdrawing could make it harder to work with other countries to stop viruses before they get to the United States."

    Dr. Tom Frieden, former head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, noted: "The United States helped create the World Health Organization. And we're turning our back on it — we're turning our back on the world. That makes us less safe, it makes the world less safe.

    "Every country in the world has a veto at WHO — except now, perhaps the United States will not."

    It's questionable whether the president can make a unilateral decision to withdraw from WHO.


    "It is an overreach of his constitutional powers," said Larry Gostin, director of the O'Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law at Georgetown University. Gostin said he believes that the president may need congressional approval to terminate U.S. membership in the U.N. agency.

    "The only situation where he can do this is if Congress had agreed beforehand to give these powers to the president," said Kelley Lee, a professor of public health at Simon Fraser University. "It is the role of legal advisers to inform the president on what authority he can exert. He is either not receiving good advice or not listening to it.""

    NPR: Trump Says U.S. Will Withdraw From WHO. Does He Have The Authority To Do It?
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    What Trump won't do to deflect the responsibility for his incompetence and mishandling of the corona pandemic, and this latest blunder will only make the situation worse; there's nothing like incompetence to remedy incompetence.
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    Let's see ...
    We're in the middle of a Pandemic ...
    ... and Trump pulls the US out of the World Health Organization.
    Yeah ... this seems like something Trump would do, this does NOT surprise me.
    (how much longer before November gets here?)

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    Don't need the WHO which is a wholly owned subsidiary of china.

    Y'all remember China don't you? The cause of all of this?

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    Hello Jack,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Let's see ...
    We're in the middle of a Pandemic ...
    ... and Trump pulls the US out of the World Health Organization.
    Yeah ... this seems like something Trump would do, this does NOT surprise me.
    (how much longer before November gets here?)
    I know, right?

    He has this penchant for doing whatever makes the least sense.

    He was deposited in this world with a strong resentment for the institutions which make our advanced life possible. The very organizations which separate us from hunter-gatherers, he opposes them all.

    He has glorified running around with a chip on your shoulder.

    Whatever works well for society, he is against it.

    The truly amazing thing is that evangelists ever had any support for him.

    Well, I guess that's why fewer and fewer people are willing to identify as evangelists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Let's see ...
    We're in the middle of a Pandemic ...
    ... and Trump pulls the US out of the World Health Organization.
    Yeah ... this seems like something Trump would do, this does NOT surprise me.
    (how much longer before November gets here?)
    He wants to put pressure on them to dump the Ethiopian Marxist shill put in place by the Chinese, good is my response!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grajonca View Post
    He wants to put pressure on them to dump the Ethiopian Marxist shill put in place by the Chinese, good is my response!
    Indeed, Havana...indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Jack,



    I know, right?

    He has this penchant for doing whatever makes the least sense.

    He was deposited in this world with a strong resentment for the institutions which make our advanced life possible. The very organizations which separate us from hunter-gatherers, he opposes them all.

    He has glorified running around with a chip on your shoulder.

    Whatever works well for society, he is against it.

    The truly amazing thing is that evangelists ever had any support for him.

    Well, I guess that's why fewer and fewer people are willing to identify as evangelists.
    Does it make sense to cheer the economic loss to millions of Americans and their families caused by the virus from China that China failed to contain?

    You certainly did.

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    A swift new unknown pandemic grips the world. Humans have no immunity, no treatment, no cure, no vaccine. It takes thousands of victims a day. The United States quickly surpasses the rest of the world in deaths. Fortunately, there is already an organization among the nations of the world to deal with common health threats. The USA was a founding member of that organization. Along comes DT, who handled the whole crisis terribly, saw his polling drop, desperately needs somewhere else to try to shift the blame, a trick he is masterfully skilled at after a lifetime of practice, so all of a sudden, from ONE PERSON, you-know-who, comes this narrative that the World Health Organization is the problem.

    Well if HE knew so much, then why did he even LISTEN TO THEM IN JANUARY???

    And if he DID LISTEN, then why did he not continue to listen as by the end of January the WHO was holding back nothing, and warned the world in no uncertain terms of the danger which faced us all.

    "January 30, the WHO named the coronavirus outbreak that originated in Wuhan, China, a Public Health Emergency of International Concern,

    warning that "all countries should be prepared for containment, including active surveillance, early detection, isolation and case management,

    contact tracing
    and prevention of onward spread" " (wiki)


    And what did DT say on that day?

    "“We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five — and those people are all recuperating successfully,” Trump told his audience on Thursday, though a sixth U.S. case of the respiratory illness was confirmed hours before his speech. “But we’re working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it’s going to have a very good ending for us … that I can assure you.”"

    So here we are, 4 months later, 100,000 dead and no end in sight.

    Oh, but he did claim 'light at the end of the tunnel' around Easter. Remember that one?

    SMH

    He is -SO- outta here in November!

    I'm already signed up for vote-by-mail.

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    Yet another illustration of why voting this November is so critical. The destruction of our alliances, our institutions, our nation will continue until we can purge ourselves of the vile filth that is IMPOTUS.
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    Trump and his hate-filled supporters want to blame WHO instead of Trump.
    Russian trolls and their supporters go on Ignore, automatically: no second chance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    "President Trump has announced that he is immediately halting the decades-long U.S. membership in the World Health Organization over its response to China's handling of the coronavirus epidemic.

    In a press briefing Friday at the White House, Trump said, "We will be today terminating our relationship with the World Health Organization and redirecting those funds to other worldwide and deserving urgent global public health needs."

    Trump said the decision came because WHO has "failed to make" reforms the U.S. requested. Last week, Trump sent a letter to WHO's director-general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, outlining his views on how the agency favors China and asking the organization to "commit to major substantive improvements within the next 30 days." It's not clear what specific reforms the U.S. has requested, because those discussions have not been made public. Nor did Trump say why he acted on the threat after one week rather than waiting a month."

    ...

    ""I disagree with the president's decision," said Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., chairman of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, in a statement after the announcement. "Withdrawing U.S. membership could, among other things, interfere with clinical trials that are essential to the development of vaccines, which citizens of the United States as well as others in the world need. And withdrawing could make it harder to work with other countries to stop viruses before they get to the United States."

    Dr. Tom Frieden, former head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, noted: "The United States helped create the World Health Organization. And we're turning our back on it — we're turning our back on the world. That makes us less safe, it makes the world less safe.

    "Every country in the world has a veto at WHO — except now, perhaps the United States will not."

    It's questionable whether the president can make a unilateral decision to withdraw from WHO.


    "It is an overreach of his constitutional powers," said Larry Gostin, director of the O'Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law at Georgetown University. Gostin said he believes that the president may need congressional approval to terminate U.S. membership in the U.N. agency.

    "The only situation where he can do this is if Congress had agreed beforehand to give these powers to the president," said Kelley Lee, a professor of public health at Simon Fraser University. "It is the role of legal advisers to inform the president on what authority he can exert. He is either not receiving good advice or not listening to it.""

    NPR: Trump Says U.S. Will Withdraw From WHO. Does He Have The Authority To Do It?
    So, I want to know if we get the vaccine developed by China or others if we No longer belong to a WHO and they develop it before the USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    What Trump won't do to deflect the responsibility for his incompetence and mishandling of the corona pandemic, and this latest blunder will only make the situation worse; there's nothing like incompetence to remedy incompetence.
    Exactly, and as the quote from Senator Alexander above implied, lessening the share of information during a worldwide pandemic isn’t beneficial

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Trump and his hate-filled supporters want to blame WHO instead of Trump.
    And China, too. It's everyone else's fault but #COVID45's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Yet another illustration of why voting this November is so critical. The destruction of our alliances, our institutions, our nation will continue until we can purge ourselves of the vile filth that is IMPOTUS.
    If I had any doubts about Trump you just removed them.

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